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aColdOldKodiak · Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2002 3:10 pm

oh my...

gigatron · Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2002 3:49 pm

Hmm i try to be nice, but like, first spend time working on the lineart! then work on the coloring... at first i was like err thats WAY too flat... then the color was like weird.. then the shaded one was erm.. too 3d lol! the perspective is weirdo, hmm start working on like individual pieces of the body, hands, eyes, ears, whatever while studying anime, this is SO not kenshin...

gigatron · Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2002 3:51 pm

Also i wana add that the nunchucks are never like used by kenshin as much as i remember, the blade he uses is an inverse blade heh, yours is normal blade, the sword is also too thin, and erm the way he's holding the sword is wrong

I took swordsmanship (kendo -- with a katana) for a while, i guess he could be left handed but erm, thats still wrong the angle i mean, the right hand should be on top and left on bottom, yours is inversed yet he's holding it to a side that would hurt his wrists heh not quite practical i dunno i think im right on this one

plastikman · Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2002 11:37 pm

the background looks entirly flat as to the character and yes you just need to work on your perspective a little and your set

AndyT · Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2002 11:49 pm

Maybe Two-Point Perspective is a good idea!?

Juan-Philipo · Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2002 1:31 am

I'm not ver good at perspective, I can only do the one point perspectivie thing

gigatron, plastikman, uhm, you didn't read the thread did you? Cuz it sounds like your only reffereing to the original drawing, but through the thread I've dumped that and are working on another one...
gigatron, on the whole subject of Kenshin, you might not have seen the OVA's. I'm fully aware that his sword is a sakabatou, however I plan to have this going on still in the dying days of the Tokugawa Shogunate, where he does have his scar, but is still a killer for the ishinshishi.
I know the nunchucks arent used by kenshin, i planned to have them there as weapons left by others when they fled or something, however since we now see all the "bad guys", i will remove that.

Ok, so anyway, I had some time today, and started working on it again. For now, I just did Kenshin, who I think turned out pretty good. I know the edges are still a little ruf, but I'll fix that next time around.
The background, I decided, I would just add when that time came, and see what I feel like doing, so the one there is now is just temp.

[ September 08, 2002: Message edited by: Juan-Philipo ]

gigatron · Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2002 10:19 am

Hey bro put more care in the work :P The barrels seem rushed and such, and the hall way or whatever looks waay too narrow :P I dunno make it fade or something but i guess u just started, also are you doing this with a mouse in photoshop? One word of advice, when u retrace it in photoshop u can zoom in and then hold shift and click click click to your heart's extent to make straight lines and if u go in segments u can make a pretty good curve, also i saw all of kenshin

I am an anime maniac heh, still its not kenshiny enough but its getting better i guess.

Juan-Philipo · Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2002 11:43 pm

gig', I dont think I'll make it much more kenshiny than this, its pretty acurate at the moment, I'm not sure I'll redo more of it. The face isn't exactly right, but, hmm, I dunno.
And again, you clearly didn't read all of what I said

I said the background was just temporary, since I'm probably not gonna go with that idea anymore. Thats why it looks so unfinished, heh. The barrels WERE rushed!

Oh, and no I use a Wacom... and there I went and thought this drawing was actually good.

[ September 08, 2002: Message edited by: Juan-Philipo ]

Juan-Philipo · Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2002 1:01 pm

I agree that some of them are ok, like the animals (i couldn't draw an animal if my life depended on it), however for drawings such as faces the things get all screwed...
And which drawing are you talking about, the first, or the one i'm working on now?
And whats funny, that I say someone elses work isn't great, even though mine isn't?

[ September 09, 2002: Message edited by: Juan-Philipo ]

faB · Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2002 11:58 pm

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Is that you page your linking to in your sig? If so, I can see what you mean, but still, advice is always good.

Sorry but I had to quote this. I thought it was funny, after seeing Juan's pic. Honestly I thought AndyT's pencils are nice and have some kind of personality in it, despite being somewhat rough. And the navigation on the page is great...

Max · Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 10:40 am

Andy, I like this.
Like faB said: your work has a cool personality in it.
Your art is nice.

AndyT · Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 1:27 pm

Thanks Max! And thanks faB (ops I forgot that earlier)...
@ Juan-Philipo: Looks nice. I guess it might look better if there were thicker lines in shadow areas. Or won't there be any lines at all in the finished image?
'bout the feet (I'd worry more about the hands!) ...
just go for coherent perspective. Yours looks like a top view of the right foot.

Juan-Philipo · Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2002 11:22 pm

College is seriously pulling my time... With 1 late danish paper, 3 late music papers, 1 danish/english translation and 1 english essay, you'd have problems finding the time too!!!

I had time to really clean up the drawing, and add a few extra things

I can't decide on which hairstyle I should go with though. Cuz the original one (to the right) just seems to just be to kind... But I dont know, I'm having problems getting outside that look. Dunno why.
Oh, and any advice on getting the right perspective on the right foot? It looks like he is trying to dig it into the ground, but I have no idea how to change it!
And I got a new very good idea for the background (more gore, but way cooler).

EDIT: Looking more at it, I think I'm just gonna go with the right look.

[ September 10, 2002: Message edited by: Juan-Philipo ]

[ September 10, 2002: Message edited by: Juan-Philipo ]

Max · Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2002 2:59 am

Yea, good.
You improve Juan.

Juan-Philipo · Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2002 11:14 pm

I havent had that much spare time lately, which is why I havent updated... cuz I havent had anything to update with.
I couldn't help myself, and laid down the main colors for him...
I also added a sketchy background to have an idea of what it will be like. Its gonna be a Japanese house at night, with around 4-5 dead guys lying around Himura.

As you can see, his right foot is still as fucked as before, however that will be the next thing I'll change!
To see a higer res of Ken-san go here: http://www.hyperjump.net/natalieboard/art/moonlight-serenade-progresskenshinhighres.jpg

Max · Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2002 6:21 am

I think youre scene and your ideas for the finished pic are good.
Now you have to be careful on the perspective.
Lying charakters are not easy to draw.
Make a lot of studies before starting.
Try to see what looks wrong and improve it.
If you can say " yea that is how it should look like " it's good.

Stay by the clean look.

Juan-Philipo · Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 5:38 am

Well, i already know the perspective on both feet will be terrible, i've redone the right one so many times now, that I'm starting to just say "fuck it". And I've noticed that my perspective on the left foot is also slightly wrong, since from the perspective you should be able to see a part of the top of it, which you cant now... I dont know if I'll decide to fix that...

Yeah I already noticed how mard lying people are! Just my sketches for them were hard! I found out its a good idea to take a picture of myself while in the position i would like to draw, from somewhat the same perspective as the pic, and then trace the outline of it onto the pic. Not perfect, but it can help a lot

Thanks for the advice