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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2001 6:41 am     Reply with quote
It's a part of a series. Guess what the theme is?



-Split

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2001 6:47 am     Reply with quote
give it a shot, that stuff is far from difficult to do from scratch without any photo/scan material.



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2001 11:45 am     Reply with quote
Up.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2001 11:46 am     Reply with quote
comeon man, be ABIT more creative than this... i love manipulations... but comeon....

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2001 1:32 pm     Reply with quote
yeah, do something we haven't seen you post 50 times so far.



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2001 1:48 pm     Reply with quote
exactly... add some variation.. they all seem to be dark messes of scanned pics with some words thrown on top.

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"Bye bye Lets get high and ride Oh, how do we do these niggas But I'm not gonna cry I'm a Bad Boy killa Jay-Z die too Looking out for Mobb Deep Nigga when I find you Weak mutha-fuckas don't deserve to breathe
How many niggas down to die for me yea yea" - Makaveli

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2001 2:01 pm     Reply with quote
...mildly put.



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2001 2:13 pm     Reply with quote
actually, i will give more specific crits... the scans always seem to be resized way to big. They are blurry and messy.. the text seems to be thrown in as an afterthought.. honestly, what does this have to do with pride? it sure doesn't make me think "wow, this looks like the graphical representation of pride!"

that is all....

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"Bye bye Lets get high and ride Oh, how do we do these niggas But I'm not gonna cry I'm a Bad Boy killa Jay-Z die too Looking out for Mobb Deep Nigga when I find you Weak mutha-fuckas don't deserve to breathe
How many niggas down to die for me yea yea" - Makaveli

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2001 3:24 pm     Reply with quote
Split

dont mean for this to sound bad but I dont get it..

mebbe I dont understand the whole photomanip thing but I dont see what this pic is supposed to accomplish. Its a bit too dark. (could just be my monitor)

seems kinda renaissance-ish to me... what i can see of it.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2001 10:07 pm     Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by faustgfx:
yeah, do something we haven't seen you post 50 times so far.


I'd advise you to do the same. Your flames are tiring, something we've all seen 200 times before, and... well, basically, they suck.

-Split
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2001 10:14 pm     Reply with quote
his flames have merits...

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"Bye bye Lets get high and ride Oh, how do we do these niggas But I'm not gonna cry I'm a Bad Boy killa Jay-Z die too Looking out for Mobb Deep Nigga when I find you Weak mutha-fuckas don't deserve to breathe
How many niggas down to die for me yea yea" - Makaveli

"Got my money in my pocket, finger on the trigger and I ain't taking no shit from no niggaz" -2pac

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2001 10:28 pm     Reply with quote
hey split soul.

i don't care what the others say, i like photomanips, and i dig yours.

your work would be more appreciated at www.deviantart.com



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2001 10:30 pm     Reply with quote
*cough*seven deadly sins*cough*

i think everyone just neglected to say that part.

i love it. finish the series.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2001 10:33 pm     Reply with quote
"I'd advise you to do the same. Your flames are tiring, something we've all seen 200 times before, and... well, basically, they suck."

look around a bit before you say things.

your photo-overlaying still stinks fucking hardcore.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2001 10:44 pm     Reply with quote
just to add to that, at least i create from the scratch and get results out of that, without having to rely complex material like photographs of cities for example, to get something out of it.

photo manipulation is still utter shit, it's just that, manipulation, as a poor substitute to creating since you seem to be incapable of that.

i don't even know why i care so much, i've yet to find out why photo-manip-inlackofotherideasandcreativity disgusts me so much.

amen.



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2001 10:48 pm     Reply with quote
and to ramble a bit more on.

your so called photomanipulation falls to the "whatever seen it 10000 times back in '96" cathegory. it has nothing to it. you even fucked up the nin logo and made it look less than good.

again i say it, spitfire's photo manipulation crap looks alot better and i almost like it, he does something that looks a bit different and puts more work on it than just overlaying photos and changing the layer blending modes.

yours are far from that.

"I'd advise you to do the same. Your flames are tiring, something we've all seen 200 times before, and... well, basically, they suck." flames? in refer to attacks on the forum or drawings?

too bad in both of those you lose.



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2001 10:52 pm     Reply with quote
and in addition; sorry, it's just my opinion (and alot of other peoples), and there's nothing you can do about it.

slither to Seire or something, they'd propably appreciate this kind of work, Seire being what it is...



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2001 11:31 pm     Reply with quote
well... hmm i don't know much about the artist, but the oppinions about photo manipulism I read are quite closed minded, aren't they?


ps: excuse my english

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2001 12:10 am     Reply with quote
Optical,
Any particular suggestions to make it better, then?

-Split
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2001 12:25 am     Reply with quote
i like it. doesn't matter that much to me how it came about, it looks pretty




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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2001 1:50 am     Reply with quote
I thought, lets not go postal this time. But alas, Jussi was there to do it for me.

And yes, do go to Seire. They´ll probably make you their most-honoured-member or something for pushing the boundaries of photorape just a bit further into the realm of beyond recognition.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2001 6:38 am     Reply with quote
This 'picture' is simply WAY too dark and
the elements I can see are blurry.

To be honest, this stuff is geting very
boring. Time to re-ivent yourself.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2001 4:04 pm     Reply with quote
Wheres the delete thread option? flames are bad... behave!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2001 8:18 pm     Reply with quote
too bad your "art" is utterly worthless to us who happen to look at things like...

-how it was made
-what it is about
-what does it look like
-what kind of message it tries to desperately give to no avail it seems
-is it even one fucking bit original
- and so forth

now most of your pieces are (in the same order as in the above list)
-bunch of photorape in 5 minutes
-"fuck shit motherfucker" -wannabe whatevertypography on top of raped photos
-messy pile of shit that could be done in 10 minutes except it'd take time to re-create them since most likely most of the stuff is random results from the filter rape phase
-the message? "i can't do anythjng else so i put together 20 photorapes per day and call it deep art and refuse to realize maybe even once i should listen to someone else"
-original? i've yet to see something original from you that hasn't been done about 4 years ago when these things started appearing more and more
-fuck you too, i hold you in no value. <- just a response to his words, just in case mentioning since there are alot of americans on this board.

edit, and in case you haven't noticed yet, yes i have a problem with this kind of "art".

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2001 8:30 pm     Reply with quote
Oh god, this again. Its not the first time you 2 get into an argument, how about you just ignore each other ? Or maybe settle this somewhere else than a digital art forum where everyone comes to discuss art, not to send each other to hell.
I have nothing against any of you 2, but shit, you 2 are acting like kids.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2001 8:41 pm     Reply with quote
i am a kid, i can do that.




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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2001 8:44 pm     Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by faustgfx:
-what does it look like


Unfortunately, for you, this has been proved wrong by the few people that replied who actually liked it (as in: they liked what it looked like).

quote:
Originally posted by faustgfx:
-bunch of photorape in 5 minutes


Actually, I use about an hour or two on each of my wallpapers.

quote:
Originally posted by faustgfx:
-"fuck shit motherfucker" -wannabe whatevertypography on top of raped photos


I think I can safely speak for everyone else who is currently reading this, when I say: Huh?

quote:
Originally posted by faustgfx:
-messy pile of shit that could be done in 10 minutes except it'd take time to re-create them since most likely most of the stuff is random results from the filter rape phase


Both yourself and Spitfire keep bringing the word "filter" into this discussion - why? No filters were used.

quote:
Originally posted by faustgfx:
-the message? "i can't do anythjng else so i put together 20 photorapes per day and call it deep art and refuse to realize maybe even once i should listen to someone else"


If you could bring up some reasonable, valid arguments as to why I should listen to you, please do so. Your behavior does nothing but make me laugh.

Maybe you should take your own advice, and for once listen to me; People have different opinions on art. Mine and yours obviously differ quite a bit. You will accomplish nothing by "yelling" at me in this fashion. At all.

quote:
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-original? i've yet to see something original from you that hasn't been done about 4 years ago when these things started appearing more and more


I'm sorry that I don't draw phallic symbols such as your own (i.e. the famous CCCP penis rocket, etc.). I bet they're far more original than my work.

quote:
Originally posted by faustgfx:
-fuck you too, i hold you in no value. <- just a response to his words, just in case mentioning since there are alot of americans on this board.


I see. Excuse me, but what on earth are you talking about here?

quote:
Originally posted by faustgfx:
edit, and in case you haven't noticed yet, yes i have a problem with this kind of "art".


I'm really sorry. However, I am not going to stop making these kind of wallpapers. Boo-hoo.

-Split

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2001 8:48 pm     Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seph|roth:
Oh god, this again. Its not the first time you 2 get into an argument, how about you just ignore each other ? Or maybe settle this somewhere else than a digital art forum where everyone comes to discuss art, not to send each other to hell.
I have nothing against any of you 2, but shit, you 2 are acting like kids.



I didn't ask him to come into every thread I make and start flaming me. In fact, I asked him to ignore my threads completely. As did Dhabih. Obviously he doesn't respect the owner of this forum enough to stop doing this.

-Split
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2001 9:00 pm     Reply with quote
i have in no point noticed dhabih say a fucking word about my comments towards your mighty art.

besides, i'm only returning the favour after you dissed my work pretty well. at least i create my stuff from the scratch and put effort to it.

nobody asked you to give a fuck, yet you do. the ignoring -part isn't really working out for you either.



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2001 9:09 pm     Reply with quote
Hi all,

I'm gonna start by saying that I don't particularly like the piece and can't really understand it.

But I don't think that makes the work any less valid.

Faust, I don't agree with your views on photo manupulation. If done well, it's still art. Dave McKean has raised it to high art.

You're entitled to your opinions and I think it's fine with all of us if you don't like SplitSoul's work (or even SplitSoul). But I don't think that entitles you to go raging on like you've done on a public discussion forum. It's just not what I came here for.
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