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ceenda
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2001 1:37 pm     Reply with quote
Here's the finished version of the Beast Rabban.

EDIT - Updated version

Thanks to Ben Barker for advice on the lighting.



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2001 1:39 pm     Reply with quote
i like the markings on his shoulder piece thingies.

though the face seems to stand out too much, mostly cause the contrast between the skin color and the cloth, alotta saturation on the skin, so much of it it becomes disturbing to look at.

dig.



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2001 1:52 pm     Reply with quote
That looks pretty nice! I agree with faust that the head really stands out too much because of the high value and contrast compared to the rest. His shoulder pads are not the same width. But aside from that, it's very nice.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2001 2:08 pm     Reply with quote
Nice pic.. kinda reminds me of Doom Troopers/Mutant Chronicles stuff.. i have to agree with Faust and Frost though... really like the design though.. nice stuff.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2001 3:18 pm     Reply with quote
faustgfx: Yeah, there is way too much contrast there. Hmm, not sure how I'm gonna fix this one.

Frost: Hiya, seems everyone's coming back now. I'll re-adjust one of the shoulder pads.

Optical: Thanks. Hmm, are those comics you mentioned? I might check them out.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2001 3:57 pm     Reply with quote
yeah, comics and little model game kind of things.. you know those little plastic guys you paint and make little armies with?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2001 4:34 pm     Reply with quote
ceenda: make a selection out of the face (quick mask + paintbrush propably works the fastest for you), ctrl-shift-u (desaturate), ctrl-shift-f (fade filter) and set the slider to ~15-30%.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2001 4:58 pm     Reply with quote
Woooh! Cool one Ceenda! Does the image come in a bigger size?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2001 6:00 pm     Reply with quote
Heh, that turned out pretty good. Those Harkonnens sure are fat bastards.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2001 6:22 pm     Reply with quote
Still reminds me of Speedball II, but lookin better

Bristo Square's too cold these days man, detracts from my allocated "warm-pub-pint-in-hand" time. ahh scottish winters.



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2001 9:25 pm     Reply with quote
Nice one I like the sharp contasts -
maybe the solution for your face delema is not changing it at all ( confusing i know )
but work on the back ground lighten it and integrate a light are where his head is, it may work or i could be mad

nice work love to see more

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2001 9:25 pm     Reply with quote
Nice one I like the sharp contasts -
maybe the solution for your face delema is not changing it at all ( confusing i know )
but work on the back ground lighten it and integrate a light are where his head is, it may work or i could be mad

nice work love to see more

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2001 5:28 am     Reply with quote
Here's an updated version that should reduce the contrast somewhat.



Optical: Cool, I know what you mean.

faustgfx: That's quite neat! I used it on the background instead and it had quite a good effect. Nice one.

Danny: Hiya Danny, there's a full sized version here (about 800x800) but it's not very detailed, hence the resizing.
http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceenda/rabban_full.jpg

Ben Barker: He he, they are indeed.

el tigre: Wow! It's a shame Bitmap Brothers never rivalled the success of the Speedball 2. Apparently, the new version they did was quite a disappointment and came out for Playstation only. BTW - don't get Guinness extra cold, just get regular Guinness and sit in the beer garden, it'll be extra cold in no time.

ToasT 01: Thanks for the comments. I've lightened the background in the latest version. Cheers!



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2001 8:13 am     Reply with quote
Yay! Nice work, ceenda. Good use of deep shadows. No crits to add...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2001 9:16 am     Reply with quote
hey ceenda looks good.

not much to say that hasn't beed said already.
are you on ICQ much?....gimme a buzz sometime if you want. number is in my profile

hehe, ohh, and if you 'ave a look at my pic in the mech thread you'll see my first pitifull attmept at clouds

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2001 10:39 am     Reply with quote
Ceenda -

Looks great! The beast rabban looks evil for sure!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2001 11:20 am     Reply with quote
ceenda, nice work. Like the detail on the armour. The second version with the coloured bg helps to stop the head from standing out too much but it still seems to stand out a little, maybe it's just me.
Didn't he have boils on his face in the film?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2001 4:53 pm     Reply with quote
The second one has a much better shadow on his right shoulder, good job!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2001 12:51 am     Reply with quote
Cool. I like the feel of it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2001 4:35 am     Reply with quote
Cheers for the comments guys. I think I'll try working on some new areas for a bit (i.e. landscape painting, technical stuff and perhaps some more traditional stuff).

Jaymo: Thankyou.

Rinaldo: As I said on ICQ, I liked the scene alot, the clouds just need a bit more dimension with regard to the lighting. Check out some of Loki's artwork as he seems to have a way of putting a nice dimension into the clouds in his pics.

Zoso: Cheers. I'm thinking about doing a character sketch of Piter de Vried.

Axl: Yeah, the contrast is still way too high I think. BTW - that's the Baron Harkonnen you're thinking of. Check out spooge's Baron pic in the Work In Progress forum page. A lot of the Baron's aspects (i.e. flying) were introduced by David Lynch for the film.

Lord Arioch: Glad you like it.

ReSistanZ: Thanks! I tried tons of different combinations for the shadowing, so I really need to get a good book on lighting sometime.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2001 1:02 am     Reply with quote
I always like checking out your work and like the direction that this image is taking(although over the last couple of months haven't had too much time to comment - VERY busy). Anyhow the head jumped out at me as something that didn't look right. As I read the replies, everyone seemed to think it was the colour doing this but I only think that is part of it.

My humble opinion has more to do with proportions. To get a head like that, you would have to do some serious stretching of the neck and I think the problem originates here. The neck 'brace' is quite deep, continuing further than the level of the top shoulder pads. Thus the neck would have to be about 6 inches long.

The head also seems too small considering the width of the shoulders and how deep the chest is.

The colours are all really nice and there are some cool things happening in this one.

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