[Xavier Marquis]

inspired by sparth


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[Mikko K]

The idea about how working hard inside your cave can actually stop you from broadening your horizons is interesting.

You know, some industrial design types draw really well in perspective.. Okay do that for ten years or so, and you're still not even close to someone who can draw AND use 3d apps properly.

So would it be better to actually play the games you're designing for, go traveling abroad or just have a few beers down the pub? Something to think about.

Should this nonsense be moved to discussion section?

EDIT, almost forgot: Octavian, Pringle, M@, Davidsmit, ax-hv, Annisahmad: Awesome!

[Ranath]

pringle - that's awesome



this sucks

[Sukhoi]

LP LP LP

[Mitsui]

sukhoi nice

xavier cool!

from life


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[The Insane Lemur]

great paintings as usual, aswell as interesting discusion. I would like to experiment more outside of my comfort zone, seems lately I get way too caught up with noodling useless detail that takes away instead of working the broad loose range of the picture.
something to post-

[octavian]

Werd son!
All this discussion has got me thinking again. it's funny how we all realize different things and subscribe to different theories about aesthetics.

I think a lot of aspiring artist's (me included) problem has a lot to do with value relationships (contrast and respective shapes and edges) and placement of texture/contrast to lead the eye. To me idea is important, but I'd rather get the fundamentals down first. Guys like sparth, Mikko, Mullins, Pringle, M@, Cicinimo, etc all seem to really understand these concepts and prove to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that detail is not important to a powerful composition or a readable image... in fact it is more desirable to leave a majority of detail out and let the viewer imagine the rest. Sparth has gotten so minimalistic in his latest works and I think his work gets ever more powerful. It has taken me years to really start to grasp the concept, but even still I don't understand how to employ it in my already bad technique.

ah, whatever... hopefully I can steal some more theories at the gnomon workshop. I heard Mullins is a 6 armed robot from the future... I guess I'll find out this saturday!!

Here is a study that taught me nothing. lol

[notspecialist]

awesome works you guys, nice atmosphere there ranath!

m@, pringle, those are insane. for speedies, do you guys usually start with shape generation and look for an idea in the shapes or start with an idea already?

here's mine, i used ref, but not a paint over or anything.


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[watmough]

hurri,sparth,mitsui,ranath,misc,lingy,thanks fellas
great paintings everyone

[Matthew]

ohh I was gonna write something but I will leave it alone. With limiting yourself you are committed to not touch, color balance, contrast and brightness adjustments, no layer effects, no undo and some more things but now I will shut up.
Only expanding my previous comment here above: Whether this makes you better or not is up to you.

Interesting discussion though, me and my friend over here has been discussing a similar thing within the decorative business. The choice of doing things you not like and accepting it or do it your own way and maybe be limited in doing it, being forced to take smaller jobs, hard to even find those in me native country.

//one more thing but it has to be expanded in order to make some sence and I will only be short commented about it. Critique and comment has to be discussed upon, whether it helps you as a artist or not? In the end the critique you are given comes down to personal and maybe what is expected, hmm u getting me? Anyway I see it all the time here and comments are widely given if I may say someone likes the work displayed or not, leaving it with the simple absolute -"it's awesome", or if not the critique is coming down. hmm maybe I will come to terms with it in the future.

Abstract gives you the freedom to maybe create things the way you want them, not supposed how they should be, this what I like the most with the abstract thinking.

ok hiding hour for some time, I will not reply this so feel free to bad mouth me.
keep up everyone.
Matthew / Mattias

[Jabo]

Wait, huh? I'm confused by all the text in here. Really, I thought this thread was dead.

[Cpt.Obvious]

pic that should be posted together with my previous post. for sake of pain2post rule

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[Isric]

The art a person creates depends entirely on their intended audience. For a guy like you, Matthew, it seems you make art for yourself. You are the audience, experimenting and working on self-indulgent exercises.
Most people at Sijun try to express ideas to other artists, or consumers, or family. Critiquing art that is meant as self exploration is tough, because only the artist truly understands. I could critique the image you just posted, but it's un-readable. You posted it because you like it, but you obviously haven't made it for us to really understand. However most people here create art that is meant to be viewed and understood. It's a discussion between artist and viewer. In a sense it's not even art anymore, it's illustration. It's visual communication. It's easier to critique illustration because the primary question is "what is this image telling me?" In illustration, there is almost always an answer. In the world of self-indulgent abstraction, the answer is usually a secret held by the artist himself. So i'd say don't even worry about critiques. The way you work, critiques don't even apply to you.

(That's not meant as bad mouthing, i'm just answering your questions as best i know how.)

[robair]

Hi all
Cpt.Obvious, just stunning.
notspecialist, nice
Xavier Marquis, good inspiration and surtout, super bien.
just a speed mama doing ninja in few minute

[fruity_loops]

Really interesting Discussion, keep it up!

Cpt.Obvious: Hell, this is so amazing
Retro: Really enjoyed your last one!

Here is another one for the 90% boring paintings

Nr9 with ref


Any Tips welcome!

[ax--hv]

I think that the reason we keep posting here (besides the vanity ^_^) is in eliminating certain laws of good art, creating simple and effective personal models of achieving good results. Sure a detailed critique exchange could add a whole new dimension to the process. Artists would have an opportunity to do conclusions, to agree or disagree. But criticizing such amount of works is impossible. Absence of proper comments is a result of a format Speed Painting topic belongs to.
Personally I prefer understanding to practice (need balancing all right). Therefore I am happy to see that discussions here have begun again. Such an irrespective kind of discussion is the only way to help each other to boost the progress on the pages of this rash topic. It seems to me that people are ready to share their thoughts :)

[Hurri-cane]

Cpt.Obvious : sweet !!!

octavian : grayscale version is tight

Mitsui : nice apple

Sukhoi : kickass colors! strong!

ax--hv : sweet

m@. : DAMN! nice!



OOOOOOook. so i needed to vent and disapear for a while tonight. work caught up to me and i felt restricted...so i just shut off and let my brain talk for a while... results ->

~10-20 mins per picture, no brain

















cheers !

[M@.]

Cpt.Tiger.1313 : woot! awesome

Hurri : you should do those "brainless" sketches a lot more man, I really dig them! lots of energy in that!

thanks all btw.

Tried to construct things a bit more, without using 3D.




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[octavian]

So many good works in here.

I couldn't agree with ax--hv and Isric more.

Watmough, I really, really, REALLY dig that.

M@: I want to pick your brain for art knowledge. how you have advanced so quickly makes me all angsty but happy for you at the same time. If only I could kick it w/ you for a few days. Damn the Atlantic ocean!

Capt. Obvious, nice

Hurri: I concur, loose the brain more often! that last one is SOOOOO TASTY. and thanks for your input.

Jabo: thanks man

Notspecialist, I like those colors mang!

Fanboy mode= off

well, I had an image, but I think I'll finish it another time so I'm gonna let it bake for a while. And for anyone who cares, school is gonna eat me up the next three weeks (finals) so I doubt I'll have much time for anything other than rhetoric... But I'll see you on the other side.... keep keepin' on y'all!
peace

[Capt. Fred]

The images ARE the discussion here in speedpainting. We evaluate and reflect on each others work when browsing, and respond using photoshop/painter.

EDIT: Oops, missed the start of the discussion. ignore

[soulburn]

- Neil

[The Insane Lemur]

thankyou so much octavian, once again another has brought a major problem of mine to my attention-value relations and drawing edge. I think i need to work on that more along with drawing (two most important things skillwise as spooge once said). I made a painting simply trying to think different, it holds many failures I believe but it takes much practice to learn how to implement these things. Im very thankful to be young, cause I have many years worth to learn.
Oh, and the fanboy side of me is drooling at this page, thanks guys.

[JZA]

[ax--hv]

Hurri-cane, M@, cool!
Capt. Fred> good point

Sorry, no sound :)

[jfb]

[udal]

ummmmmmm sorry. went to life drawing today..i wish i wasn't so retarded at it. anyway.

[ivo]

[Glen Runciter]

Obvious :
and the same for at least 80% of this thread

did this with an old speed I rebuilt

[jfb]

[Torstein Nordstrand]

Landscape Study no 2:


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