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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:42 pm     Reply with quote
Someone mentioned in one of the threads they were surprised you can create vector drawings in photoshop. You can in MS Word too (if you don't mind a max export resolution of 1800x1800). Here's a sample (of my amateur experiments):









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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:22 pm     Reply with quote
For what its worth, thats the best MSWord art ive seen yet.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:03 am     Reply with quote
Thanks. I checked out your site - very inspiring.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:20 am     Reply with quote
"Spud Red"



[NB: eyes borrowed from "Monsters Incorporated" - meant to mention.]


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:37 am     Reply with quote
Good Work Joemo..
I saw that thread...I use a mouse ..but I don't recommend it...Better to learn traditional methods..The mouse is very clunky and difficult to learn compared to pencil and paper..I learned the mouse because I couldn't draw with either pencil or mouse..Just Playing Around.. These were done in Corel PhotoPaint X3..The mouse response in that program is the best..except for Corel Designer and these are Not Vector..These are freehand quick sketches ..using installed "paint brushes"


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:14 pm     Reply with quote
Thanks Brake Check, and thanks for showing your stuff (I don't recall seeing it elsewhere)... I don't recommend a mouse either but it teaches patience - twice over! I retreat to vectors (and other 'basic' programs) whenever I'm feeling overwhelmed. I wonder if the brushes in Corel PhotoPaint include a 'spray can', as in MSPaint (or 'scattering' in PS, etc.):





This uses the left and right mouse buttons as dodge and burn tools (but at the 'raw pixel' level), foreground and background colours set to black and white. Rather than lines it's about values and maybe 'treating shapes as volumes' (v Rodin; being an outsider, I wouldn't really know). It's not easy to do (who would want that anyhow) but I think it's as close as we'll get to a mouse-friendly technique.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:19 pm     Reply with quote
Joemo
That is very interesting..
The problem I have with the "tools" is pencil shading is very difficult. That technique is very close..I will try it in PhotoPaint..
Painter has Great tools but...the mouse is behind the redraw...The lines don't show up until after they are made which makes it hard to control..and the curves tend to stick ..that is the worst control problem..as the lines then become straightened
Many people use the mouse and the graphics programs aren't keeping up with that at all..
I use the mouse as a pencil..to draw stuff and you haven't seen my stuff because my art is just that bad..and worse..I drew those little sketches with the mouse...and they are about what I can do with a real pencil..I don't have the raw talent..so I just do this for fun..
I am a lurker..an admirer and occasional poster
I enjoy the forum ..as a place to see great art being created..like visiting a studio ..
I need a chess set for a study in perspective so I am making one..No copyright hassles and it is fun to do..nothing special ..combination of vector and freehand..The horse/knight was freehand mostly
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:41 pm     Reply with quote
OK Joemo
I tried what you said..I don't understand about the "right/left" mouse but then I was sides wiped and offtracked by water colors in Corel Painter..and I drew a bird..just using volumes..(the mouse works fine with the water colors) Not as good as yours ( I think it looks enough like a bird to be a bird..hmm?)
Thanks for the tip..I will keep trying that technique..see if I can figure it out..Finding the Water Colors was worth the time spent!

Water Color After Joemo

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:13 pm     Reply with quote
Brake Check wrote:
I think it looks enough like a bird to be a bird..hmm?


I think that's understatement. Smile At first I recognized only the right wing (the highlight in the middle of the other made me think it was an eye?), until I saw it from across the room, then I was 'astounded' (the word that came to mind). To me it's a great improvement, partly because of the accidental qualities - I hope someone else will give a second opinion.

Getting "offtracked" reminds me of the text I removed from my previous post (which I think now belongs here):

"I liked your post re "Intrigue is overlooked in painting subjects" (http://forums.sijun.com/viewtopic.php?t=41678; don't know how to identify links to individual posts). Other things might be overlooked too, such as: drawing/art happens in human scale and there's more than one way to succeed (if we didn't work with what we've got, however limited the medium, we wouldn't be called 'creative'?)...

Someone else - or maybe it was you - mentioned elsewhere those 'mistakes' that happen in painting (oil, acrylic), chance discoveries that the person didn't intend..."

Sorry for being unclear about the mouse buttons, misleading since functions are not consistent between programs...

Edit: lots of editing in this one - damn this language thing and the horse it rode in on. Smile


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:49 pm     Reply with quote
Vectors and a test of how "saturation" and "luminance" trade off.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:49 am     Reply with quote
That is amazing!
For Oct 18, 2007
One Leaf..
No Green..I was experimenting with blending red yellow blue on the computer



I won't be on the computer for a while..I bought a pencil and paper and I am practicing with those..Actually I can draw better on the computer but then I can't draw very well at all..
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:10 pm     Reply with quote
Thanks Brake Check, revision below. I've been out collecting leaves (thanks for the inspiration). I hope your practice goes well.

Fixed a couple things:

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:18 am     Reply with quote
Very Creative..
Collecting leaves? The nicest part of art..studying nature..
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:43 am     Reply with quote
Leaf Collector Two



I have luck improving my drawing by studying line art so I made this from a personal photograph. I can print the line art and keep it handy with my pencil and paper as reference material. (free hand mouse trace, not simple free hand)
Chinese art is a good source of complex but very clear line art for leaves
(I didn't mean to hijack your thread..but it refers back to another computer art thread Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:24 pm     Reply with quote
Brake Check, I'm glad you're posting here. Maybe you didn't notice my edit (in the "More vectors" topic): "The previous thread kinda ran away with itself (in a good way)," meaning this thread. By "I didn't mean for it to be free advertising for, uh, anyone" I meant free advertising for Microsoft (ie. "MS Word: vector maps" is the topic title). I didn't mean to suggest that you 'hijacked' the thread...

The moral of the story: Less words, more drawing? :)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:07 am     Reply with quote
I have been too busy lately to do anything but doodle with paper and pencil at odd moments..so I won't be posting much
This thread has been interesting..
People make pictures if they have to use fire blackened sticks and mud smeared on cave walls by firelight..Jesus drew in the dust with his finger..
The point of this thread has been..a possible prediction..
There is a generation of children who do not have fancy programs and tablets..The art of the future may be artist trained in the use of mouse and msword..
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