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Petri.J
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:04 am     Reply with quote
I put this thread under Digital art discussion because these are just studies. You will see no work in progress or finished art here. This is more like thinking and experimenting on canvas, so in other words these are all open for discussion and you can say whatīs good and whatīs bad and what is purely wrong in any ways. Smile

So.. I went through the gnomon master class lessons, and I just want to try out some of those thoughts. So letīs start with something that mullins said.
-Break the pipeline you have been taught. Break the rules and experiment.

Lets start with something that I donīt like and what I donīt understand.. abstract art.



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:49 pm     Reply with quote
I combined colors that I donīt like to style that I donīt usually like..

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:23 am     Reply with quote
these are great "sandbox" time playing Petri! really dig what you are doing here- do you mind if others contribute... or do you think we could make a sandbox thread in the gallery section?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:15 am     Reply with quote
The Insane Lemur wrote:
these are great "sandbox" time playing Petri! really dig what you are doing here- do you mind if others contribute... or do you think we could make a sandbox thread in the gallery section?


Thanks man. Smile Yeah, go ahead and post your pix here if you like. There is no point in creating several sandbox threads. And if they are all in one place it is easier to start discussions.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:20 am     Reply with quote
Itīs wierd, people like these and want to print them on the wall and shit.
Seems like this is working.. I donīt know what Iīm doing, but itīs working Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:36 am     Reply with quote
actually i don't like abstract art either,but i do admit i have come across abstract work that i end up liking quite a lot, yours included in fact. no i don't think i compares to proper cg, coz for that you need a lot of practice and training. realism will always be realism.

but here is what i want to put across...... what is abstart art? i guess, colours and shapes that don't represent any real forms, just laid out in a way meant to be visually pleasing. that last part is really important i think, coz isn't abstract art meant to be a kind of distilled essence of the principles of art? for abstarct art to *work*, it really has to have all the elements of design, like space arrangement, composition, balance,etc. without it , it just comes out weak.

in your work you can these things. interesting colour combinations, aesthetically pleasing forms, good composition. that's why.

i guess

Razz

no wait i'm not done...........
i'd meant to say that this abstraction exists in a hidden way in all paintings, even realistic ones. before drawing and painting a form, instead of just looking at it for what it is, we should also consider it as an abstract picture element, as merely a shape, an area of colour. i think this leads to better judgment on where the picture is headed. no, of course we're not supposed to think it out in such a drawn out way, i guess with practice it all becomes subconscious.
but it's there alright. it's there.

so that is the one good thing i can say for abstract art. for improving one's aesthetic sense, it's ok.

but of course, making abstract paintings and selling it for millions, that i don't get. is it really worth that much? ok so it might look pretty, but i dunno, to me it doesn't justify the price tag. or the hubris. take pollock for example. i really don't get pollock. and i'm an art student, so my head hurts all the more.

i hope i was able to contribute something
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:31 am     Reply with quote
First of all, thanks for your thorough reply Smile

supriya05 wrote:

but here is what i want to put across...... what is abstart art? i guess, colours and shapes that don't represent any real forms, just laid out in a way meant to be visually pleasing. that last part is really important i think, coz isn't abstract art meant to be a kind of distilled essence of the principles of art? for abstarct art to *work*, it really has to have all the elements of design, like space arrangement, composition, balance,etc. without it , it just comes out weak.

in your work you can these things. interesting colour combinations, aesthetically pleasing forms, good composition. that's why.

i guess

Razz

no wait i'm not done...........
i'd meant to say that this abstraction exists in a hidden way in all paintings, even realistic ones. before drawing and painting a form, instead of just looking at it for what it is, we should also consider it as an abstract picture element, as merely a shape, an area of colour. i think this leads to better judgment on where the picture is headed. no, of course we're not supposed to think it out in such a drawn out way, i guess with practice it all becomes subconscious.
but it's there alright. it's there.

so that is the one good thing i can say for abstract art. for improving one's aesthetic sense, it's ok.

but of course, making abstract paintings and selling it for millions, that i don't get. is it really worth that much? ok so it might look pretty, but i dunno, to me it doesn't justify the price tag. or the hubris. take pollock for example. i really don't get pollock. and i'm an art student, so my head hurts all the more.

i hope i was able to contribute something


Yeah I think that's a very good way to define abstract art, but I think it's more than interesting colour combinations, aesthetically pleasing forms and good composition.
Let's take that Pollock as an example here.
http://www.terraingallery.org/Pollock-Number-One-1948.jpg
Now, what do you see in that picture?
I see some sort of a landscape of bush branches that fills the whole picture. Now would that be interesting if it was realistically painted and you could really see all the branches that every one recognize? Somehow I think that it would not be interesting.
I mean this is kind of the same thing when you read a book you have to imagine everything that happens there. And when you go see a movie of that same book, it rarely is as good as the original book.

So what I'm trying to say here is, that in abstract art you have to challenge the viewer to imagine, to think for them selves when they look at the art work. So if that's true, then the viewer is part of the art making process, is he not? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:52 pm     Reply with quote
i think your point is a very good one petri- i think one of the greatest challenges would be to paint a peice that is resolved but still gives room for the imagination, maybe we are all trying to do that in some way!



gotta keep doing this, i feel like i just kept throwing crap into this one lol-pretty fun though
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:37 pm     Reply with quote
tried another one, I find that if i start thinking in words i get distracted from painting
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:05 am     Reply with quote
Petri.J: yeah, that's the beauty of abstract.. getting the viewer to think and imagine for themselves! or maybe just feel? (Mark Rothko for example, didn't want people to think about his art, just experience it)

but i think also in figurative art it's nice to leave out certain elements/details(basically... impressionism?) spooges work is a good example..

btw, your abstract experiments are very nice!
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