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Vesuvius
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2001 9:20 am     Reply with quote
this is my first post of art here so I'd like opinions on style, where I could go with it, and anything else you feel like saying. thanks.







I know some scale issues occur in these- especially in the holster in the final image.

[This message has been edited by Vesuvius (edited January 19, 2001).]
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2001 11:16 am     Reply with quote
FINALLY! someone who likes to scribble too!

i like the scibble technique myself.....i did this Giger peice back in high school.....won myself an award too!


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2001 11:17 am     Reply with quote
i have a shitload more....i'll scan em tonite if you are interested in seeing them...

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2001 11:51 am     Reply with quote
looks great. I'd say ou could go to the cartooning industry with this. And/or maybe technical design because you have attention to detail.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2001 10:31 am     Reply with quote
I appreciate what you two have said, but I was looking more for stylistically what I need to improve on. I know I need to try more dynamic poses, I need to work on maintaining a more constant scale, and perspective is off some, anything you can add or elaborate on?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2001 11:04 am     Reply with quote
pretty much sw33t skill , being able to draw in so many different stylee's

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2001 1:43 pm     Reply with quote
pissed?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2001 1:47 pm     Reply with quote
what do you mean pissed? I like the feedback, and he's right, I need to clean it up a lot. also- some of the proportion stuff is off 'cuz I rarely have the time or people to draw from life- but I guess I need to get some more experience there. Thanks for all the comments and mattready- I'm looking forward to seeing your art.
I'm 19 yrs old and out of school for the moment, I just thought I'd see what the opinions were of people I respected of my work, though I doubt I'll make a career of art. Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2001 12:08 am     Reply with quote
sorry for not posting HELPFUL stuff.

anyways, to give you some crits, i need to know what the idea is behind the drawings. Are you inking them to be colored, or are you just doing technical ink drawings?

if these are for coloring purposes, i would say clean up the lines....maybe not so many scribbled lines.

if you are doing these as illustrations or technical drawings, i would say add more shading and depth with stronger shadows and highlights.

on the mech looking one, i would DEFINITLY clean the lines using a straight edge (ruler) and some french curves. it is a machine, so you need to make sure the sheetmetal is straight and sharp. erase the pencils too.

the characature faces are obviously for fun, so i would say maybe add some demention with shading.

the comic ones (GIJoe and the tattoo guy) look really good as far as pose and porportions......GIJoe's jaw looks a little too small....same with the beared guy. Use a reference when drawing people....it will help with your porportions and features.

other than those little things, your stuff is really good and has a lot of potential. you demonstrate a high attention for detail. keep it up.

(ps i am still scanning shit right now, so i should have some stuff posted tonite)

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2001 12:28 am     Reply with quote
Vesuvius,

Well after looking at these I have to say i think You have a really keen eye for detail and that could take you a long ways, but first I think you need to work on your anatomy a little. try picking up some anatomy books a chapters or something and study the basic human shapes. learn to draw the basic ovals and boxes that make up the basic human shape and then add detail as you go along.

It looks to me like you are trying for an almost comic book style to your work and you're definately on the right road... Go to some comic book web sites like www.topcow.com or www.imagecomics.com or marvel.com and look at some of the galleries.

the anatomy issues I referres to are as follows:

first drawing - the facial features dont seem align quite rightly.. I know most people dont have perfectly symmetrical faces but the eyes dont quite seem right. the right one (our right) seems higher than the other and the pupil is much smaller.

second drawing - these are better because they appear to be meant to be cartony looking.

third drawing - the legs. especially the right one. a guys ankle doesnt bend like that. try putting your ankle in that position. a good way to draw is to look at your own body in a mirror inthe desired pose you want.. it can help a great deal in getting angles right.

fourth drawing - I have no crits about this one. It looks like a zombie to me.. (not that Ive ever actually seen a zombie or anything.....

fifth drawing - this is getting better. one thing you should do is learn how far down the torso the elbows reach too. they should match the waist. also the hands will reach to the upper-middle thigh. but it looks like you are getting a better grip on the basic shapes here.

sixth drawing - this is a very nicely detailed pic and the angle seems right.. I dont see any major things to crit here.

seventh drawing - again, this is a very nicely detailed picture but you need to work more on your proportions. for instance by making the distance from the waist to the crotch longer and matching the elbows and hands to the waist and thighs (mentioned above) you would make this picture almost perfect.

hope these crits arent too harsh and I hope they help.

nowI have to go to bed.

-Awe




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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2001 8:34 am     Reply with quote
AHHHH!!!!!

sory guys, i didnt mean to sound like an asshole! i was just kidding "HELPFUL STUUFF"

i think these drawings show ALOT of potential and your attention to detail proves that you have artistic ability.

i would have to agree that the anatomy is off a bit, but that only comes with experience and practice. with you obvious attention to detail, i think you will pick up anatomy fairly easily. if you are broke and cant afford a good anatomy book, try the web. search for anatomy tutorials. also buy a bodybuilder magazine with lots of pictures. you will also want to get a good fasion magazine like Glamour....they have TONS of faces and figures in there.

i look forward to seeing more of your work, i think with a little more practice and expereince you will be VERY good.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2001 9:24 am     Reply with quote
hey, I didn't want to offend you. Just calm down.

You did some great 15 pixels btw. I have the tile left of you. But I had some problems with the small dots of grey in the veeeery far left of your picture. Well, I tried to manage them as good as possible.

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