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Binke
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 1999 1:15 pm     Reply with quote
Hey I was wondering,
do most of you guys sketch the image on a paper and then scan in + modify?
or do you just sketch directly in photoshop/painter? (as dhabih does?)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 1999 1:22 pm     Reply with quote
Since I got my wacom I do the lot in Photoshop.. sketching and all.
Before I sometimes scanned sketches..


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 1999 1:26 pm     Reply with quote
When I am messing around and want to do something on the computer, I sketch it with pencil, then trace it onto another piece of paper with a thin Sharpie to get good solid lines on the screen for coloring.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 1999 1:28 pm     Reply with quote
PhotoShop all the way. It's better than pen and paper when you have a tablet. (my opinion)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 1999 1:29 pm     Reply with quote
i sketch most of my art in a program called futurewave smart sketch, it came on 5 floppies with my first wacom tablet,. it's the perfect program if you're into drawing Anime
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 1999 1:37 pm     Reply with quote
I used to scan in sketches, but recently I found that ditching the whole line-drawing phase and simply painting straight off works nicely.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 1999 2:57 pm     Reply with quote
i sketch on paper....then i scan it and do the rest in photoshop55
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 1999 3:57 pm     Reply with quote
I still like the feel of drawing on paper better than the Wacom. I used to try to draw everything from scratch in Photoshop or Painter, but these days, I just let it happen. If I happen to be scribbling in my sketchbook and decide it would make a good painting, I'll scan it and go to work in Painter.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 1999 5:27 pm     Reply with quote
I think that sketching on a paper is better than digital sketching, because you've much more freedom, more controls on any parts of image... and you are working in realtime (no hardware limits).
/Leo
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 1999 6:24 pm     Reply with quote
More freedom? More control? Can you draw with 16 million colors from your pencil? Can you put on your super magnification glasses and draw with graphite particle by graphite particle? Can you freely cut out or copy sections of your sketchpad and resize them?

Hehe.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 1999 8:02 pm     Reply with quote
I've experimented with various techniques (but not the Wacom stuff), and I prefere sketching and finalizing on paper, then scanning, then work in photoshop 5
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 1999 8:33 pm     Reply with quote
Funfetus if your good you dont need all that stuff. Even if you have a graphics tablet the lines you draw are dictated by what some programmer wrote. And magnifying pixel by pixes only produces stiff ass lines with no feeling and lack of uniqueness. Theres no computer than can replicate the line of a competant artist with a 20 cent pencil.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 1999 8:58 pm     Reply with quote
Well, I usually sketch out the design on paper and then redraw it using the mouse; I don't have a scanner or an artpad so I don't have much choice.. I don't see the problem in scanning in your own stuff though, it's not like you're tracing it from a photo or anything

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 1999 9:27 pm     Reply with quote
hey, funfetus, you can......lots and lots of really really really large paper, a small ass pencil and an open microscope.... muhaha!......try that again.....

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 1999 10:08 pm     Reply with quote
I use both methods. I might just start sketching on the 'puter, or I could do a sketch at school or while watching telly (I sketch rather frequently), then scan it in and fix it up. Just depends what it is and how I feel.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 1999 10:50 pm     Reply with quote
I dont have a scanner =(

Or I would.... =)

But, I do have a little flap on my tablet that allows me to put stuff under that i have drawn or something.... kinda like tracing paper..... although.... it kinda sucks.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 1999 11:45 pm     Reply with quote
hey, didn't "doc holiday" use to be dhabih's artist nickname? hum...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 1999 12:07 am     Reply with quote
I like paper better because it just feels so much better than the smoothness of the tablet, much more natural. Rough paper with a nice dark pencil is always great. And I don't think it hurts your eyes as much as a monitor.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 1999 12:18 am     Reply with quote
My last post was something of a joke, as evidenced by the "hehe". But I will maintain that I can do more with a computer than I can with a pencil.

Obviously a computer can't do what an artist can do with a cheap pencil, but an artist with a computer can potentially do a lot more than he can with a cheap pencil.

And if you think my lines are dictated by some programmer, fuck you.

Hehe.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 1999 4:00 am     Reply with quote
Hey Funfetus! You must be a big joker !
You've put "hehe" again... well is it a new joke ?
Yeah, MORE freedom, MORE controls... trust me. We are talking about sketching, so you don't need a 24-bit colors bla bla bla...
Man, how old digi-art and how old natural media? If digi-art are so cool why professional artists are still using oils, acryllics, etc. ?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 1999 5:59 am     Reply with quote
That used to be dhabih nickname? oh well, im big westerns fan but im not dhabih just to let you guys know.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 1999 10:23 am     Reply with quote
as a reply to doc's post..

whether on a piece of paper or with a wacom on the computer i can obtain the same results,. the onlt difference is they have a better feel on paper <texture>, they can appear to be identical otherwise,..

it's like a painting, then a print,. they look the same, but you know which is the original by touch.

so anyway back to my point,. if you sketch on the computer or if you sketch by hand you can get the same results through practice of either mediums

did this make any sense?

anyhow, i found another image on the net that i did way way back with a mouse for a friend of mine




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SPike.CoM
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 1999 1:12 pm     Reply with quote
I use both. Whenever I am long away from my computer, I sketch on the paper. Whenever I am tired of sitting by my computer, I sketch on paper. That should sum up my situation.

Cheers!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 1999 2:27 pm     Reply with quote
I always sketch first, I think it's give you more control over the drawing, and you can fool around alot more without messing it up...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 1999 9:26 pm     Reply with quote
baaaaaah, wacom, tablets, mouse its all bullshit, the only true thing is a cheap ass pencil and a piece of paper, that is how it was done for ages, and, heh, with good results. you cant compare a big masters painting with a good designer pic.
anyway, sketch + scanner all the way
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