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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:25 pm     Reply with quote
Hey guys,
Just wanted to ask you about something. Lately, people have been like 'hey, you must get alot of chicks with all the artsy stuff you do.' i mean, they seem to think that girls are flinging themselves at me because i'm an 'artist' who can draw them. I don't plan on using art to pick up chicks anyway, but I thought it was a bit amusing.
I forget my main point of this topic...
Oh yeah, have you guys heard about this? Or have some of you actually tried it?
Just checking if it's a stereotype of people who can draw better then stick figures, heh.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:10 pm     Reply with quote
Definitely a stereotype, but there might be some truth behind it. My observation, at least at a local community college, is that there are more girls interested in art than, say, physics or diesel mechanics (which is unfortunate). So going into art, you might have the chance to meet more girls simply because you will be surrounded by more of them. A quarter or so ago I took a painting class and I was the only guy there with about 20 girls! It was great.

Being an artist alone, will not get you "chicks". I can attest to this fact 100%. Putting on a beret, wearing a pensive expression, and growing your hair out long does not immediately translate into women throwing themselves at you like moths to a bug light. People are unique, and you have to make an effort to be nice and to give something to a person that they will appreciate. Being into art may help you with this, or it may not. It all depends on the chemistry of the situation; your temperament, her temperament, and the current configuration of the stars (I like to think that's true anyway).
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:30 pm     Reply with quote
Any chick-pulling potential you gain by being an artist is cancelled out by the fact that you're a digital artist, sorry dude Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:54 pm     Reply with quote
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Any chick-pulling potential you gain by being an artist is cancelled out by the fact that you're a digital artist, sorry dude Smile

Ha! This is the truth! In fact, being a digital artist deprives you of any social life whatsoever. Razz

But still, i remember in highschool people always valued any sort of artists (even the sh*tty ones, like myself) and if you could draw anything more than a stick figure (or even a stick figure, but well) then people would flock around you. The higher the skill, the bigger the flock. Even the bullies would come and show respect, so i didn't have problems with them. Art saves lives!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:06 pm     Reply with quote
Here's a funny little observation back from my comic book days, when I used to attend conventions.

The really famous comic book artists, no matter how famous, talented or worshipped they were, if they were overweight, kinda geeky looking, or were simply not physically attractive, despite having lots of fans both male and female, DID NOT get extra romantic attention from chicks--unless the chick was kinda homely to begin with. It didn't matter if they were funny or had a great personality--I've never seen any of them with attractive women. On the other hand, the really good looking and fashionable guys (just just above average looking but confident and dressed well), even if they were total nobodies and lacked any talent, were the ones with hot girlfriends/wives.

So, from my perspective, being an artist means nothing if you don't have the expected qualities that attract women in the first place. However, if you do have those qualities and you're an artist, people will assume you are more romantic, imaginative, sensitive, and all that jazz. Even if you aren't, they'll project that expectation onto you. Pretty silly if you ask me.

As for myself personally, one of the most memorable romantic incidents that happened in my past started from me drawing a portrait of a girl on the bus and giving it to her. I wish I had kept a photocopy of it, because it was probably the best life sketch I've ever done--totally captured her essence down to the core. I never did a life sketch that good again. I was better at drawing back then because I was a fulltime comic book artist.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:12 pm     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:40 pm     Reply with quote
Lunatique> That's the idea I had. Smile. Good stuff, lol.

Shizo> haha. You know, I think bullies have gone out of 'style'. The only time I had a bully was in 6th grade, and now he's a close friend. After 6th grade, and now im in 12th, I haven't really seen anyone bullying another dude/dudette. But I know what you mean about the flocking... I may be weird, but once people start to gather around me, I tend to stop drawing, and put my stuff away. Heh, I like my privacy while producing artwork.

Balistic> hahaha, that has lots of truth in it. "What? Digital art? That's easy! All you have to do is take a picture and apply some filters on it or make a collage out of it, right?" hahah, awesome remark though. I'm going to print it, and hang it up on my wall Razz

Nilwort> Laughing in comparison to physics or diesel mechanics, girls have no choice but to flock to art . I took a few classes at a local museum. The instructor was excellent! But the same as in your case, I was the only guy there.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:34 am     Reply with quote
[Shizo] wrote:

But still, i remember in highschool people always valued any sort of artists (even the sh*tty ones, like myself) and if you could draw anything more than a stick figure (or even a stick figure, but well) then people would flock around you. The higher the skill, the bigger the flock. Even the bullies would come and show respect, so i didn't have problems with them. Art saves lives!


Dude, that's so true! When I was in high school all the football players used to kiss my ass because they all wanted me to do the designs they'd have embroidered on their letterman jackets. Always worked out pretty well to have cred from the jocks.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:53 am     Reply with quote
I had the same experience. The thing that people said to me the most in high school was:

"Dude, draw me a hot chick."

And when it was time for year book signing, everyone was like,

"Dude, draw me a hot chick."
Rolling Eyes

And what did the girls say to me?

"Hey, can you draw me? Make me look really pretty, ok?"
Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:31 am     Reply with quote
lol. The same thing happened to me when I was an exchange student in california.
I just skeched some random stuff and suddenly I was surrounded by several girls asking me to draw them.
I spent two hours making portraits. It was quite fun Very Happy

I don't think that this kind of stuff will help you that much to get a girlfriend tho. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:39 am     Reply with quote
right, from what I've gathered, you can get girls' attention by drawing well.. they come and look "wow those are great!". However that's not interest to you, they just like your drawings.. when they are around you though, you get your chance to show if you have something the girl actually might be interested in.

About digital, I don't carry my computer and wacom around and sketch there, I sketch with pencil and paper, so people can see that "hey he can draw" (or: "ok. He can NOT draw" Very Happy ), and if I later tell them that I draw digitally too, they go like "oh interesting" because it's apparent that my skills are not based on computer working for me. That's different story in an art school though as some people there think digital is crap. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:40 am     Reply with quote
Max Kulich wrote:
lol. The same thing happened to me when I was an exchange student in california.
I just skeched some random stuff and suddenly I was surrounded by several girls asking me to draw them.
I spent two hours making portraits. It was quite fun Very Happy

I don't think that this kind of stuff will help you that much to get a girlfriend tho. Wink


Tip: Next time put "call me!" with your phone number at the bottom. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:53 am     Reply with quote
Ranath wrote:

About digital, I don't carry my computer and wacom around and sketch there, I sketch with pencil and paper, so people can see that "hey he can draw" (or: "ok. He can NOT draw" Very Happy ), and if I later tell them that I draw digitally too, they go like "oh interesting" because it's apparent that my skills are not based on computer working for me. That's different story in an art school though as some people there think digital is crap. Evil or Very Mad


It's strange to hear today's young people talking about that, because guys my age and older never had to deal with it (I'm only 33). Digital wasn't even a choice back then, and even if you could afford it all, hardware/software back then sucked. Digital anything wasn't even an option you'd seriously consider.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:02 am     Reply with quote
ranath> yeah. same here. just generally speaking about my friends and stuff.

i've got this thing against showing off against myself. anything that i might see as showing off, i stop abruptly, and move on. so i only choose to draw a select few friends. earlier in the school year this year, i was drawing someone and then a bunch of girls asked me to draw them. i started drawing them, finished, and looked around, and recieved 'death looks' from some guys. haha.
drawing chicks isnt that fun either. because they're like 'oh.. is my nose really bulby like that?' i want to say yes, but i just say i dont know. Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:55 pm     Reply with quote
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they come and look "wow those are great!". However that's not interest to you, they just like your drawings.. when they are around you though, you get your chance to show if you have something the girl actually might be interested in.


Exactly. At this point you should whip out your propeller beanie hat, your rubber duck(s), and start talking in a mock British accent.

Chicks fall for that every time. They are powerless to resist.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 4:38 pm     Reply with quote
Lunatique wrote:
I had the same experience. The thing that people said to me the most in high school was:

"Dude, draw me a hot chick."

And when it was time for year book signing, everyone was like,

"Dude, draw me a hot chick."
Rolling Eyes

And what did the girls say to me?

"Hey, can you draw me? Make me look really pretty, ok?"
Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

That pretty much mirrors my high school experience. Just attach "with really big tits." on the end of one of those "Dude, draw me a hot chick" sentences.

Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:37 am     Reply with quote
Generally speaking, if you dress with style, and don't look like a general dork, you shouldn't have problems with girls.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:59 am     Reply with quote
Yarik wrote:
Generally speaking, if you dress with style, and don't look like a general dork, you shouldn't have problems with girls.


are you local dating expert? ;]

does personality come into play? i have friends who date models and dress and look like dorks... but they are social dynamos.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:25 am     Reply with quote
I don't want to get into what happened in the last thread but the answer you are seaking is... it depends.

Let me give you a quick example. Gleam from it what you want.

I: A guy dressed good, but inside is a dork. Thinks of gadgets and gizmos. Talks about politics, computers and technical stuff. Talks too much about himself. This guy will probably loose girls quickly.

II: A guy dressed like a dork (not a complete dork. I still believe you will need to jump over humoungous barriers if you look like a dork).
He is humourous. Laid back(not hyper and anxious). Out going(always going places, partying, being spontaneuos). He is also funny and a tad bit cocky.
This guy will have an easier time getting girls than guy above.

But if you take GuyI dressing style, and Guy's II personlity, and put it into one, than he will be unstopable.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:52 pm     Reply with quote
Just buy the stuff from those emails, it'll take away all your problems with girls in an instant. At least thats what Jim, John and Sarah told me.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:20 pm     Reply with quote
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Generally speaking, if you dress with style, and don't look like a general dork, you shouldn't have problems with girls.


Don't listen to this clueless fool.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:02 pm     Reply with quote
Oh my god Nilwort! If you wear that hat, I'll totally dismiss my previous response to you in the other thread and BABY I'M YOURS! That hat is so sexay! Wink
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Nah...I was pushing it there. Nevermind.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:46 am     Reply with quote
Spring is in the air at Sijun . . .
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:25 am     Reply with quote
This is pretty mild. Have you ever been to eatpoo? They practically squirt fluids on each other over there. Shocked

And spring is still far away--it's still so cold in Fuzhou that my ears hurt when I step outside. I can't wait to move back to Cali in May (that's about when it starts to get unbearably hot and humid here, so perfect timing).
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:47 pm     Reply with quote
Lunatique wrote:
This is pretty mild. Have you ever been to eatpoo? They practically squirt fluids on each other over there. Shocked


that's hilarious Razz
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I figure when you start discussing the tondeuse �rotique, you're really just digging a hole for yourself.

I couldn't stand by and watch that happen. Not today, at least.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:56 am     Reply with quote
i'd say that the romantically insecure and geeky looking cartoon/game/concept artist from an industry near ours definitely won't get any chicks just by beeing an artist, no matter how amazing he is at what he does.

chances are that the pretentious self centered art school elite type guy will though. as well as the silent mysterious, confident and strong guy in tight black clothes and long hair who can't pay his bills becuse his "pieces" doesn't sell. even if they could barely make their mother happy with their art.

it's in the attitude and personality. the girl doesn't care about how your drawings come out. she just want's to be able to dream about her "artistic" prince.


lol, do i sound bitter here? Very Happy
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