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joemo
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:15 pm     Reply with quote
The sketch and a bit of work.





Don't know colour (on my to do list). Still fighting perfectionism (keep it loose). C&C welcome. Oh: I don't do enough (yet) to justify a tablet, using a mouse.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:44 pm     Reply with quote
Grayscale (sigh of relief). Made room for sky (can't put off the lighting issue much longer); squashed/flipped the breakwater (I'm thinking add two more characters coming in/over it); adjusted the pose (which might be a little melodramatic now; certainly the skull is)...

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:13 am     Reply with quote
Where is your refference materials? Looks like its done from your head, the problem is our head lies to us about all sorts of things, like what something should look like for example.

Go get a bunch of refference materials from the net and then take a look at your work here.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:49 am     Reply with quote
Thanks jmarkey77, it is out of my head. I'm happy I can do this much without references and I agree they're needed now. A vector drawing would help too (get hold of the perspective, for starters), something I keep forgetting I can do... I've never claimed to be organized. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:42 pm     Reply with quote
Do you live by the ocean?


Go outside, make sketches, work from them.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:33 am     Reply with quote
I don't know if this helps at all, but I started playing with the idea, and although I intended this to be a quick paint over, it ended up getting a little out of hand in terms of changes to the subject. Anyways, do with it what you will; just a quick sketch along the same lines as yours.

Basically, I wanted to get the subject further from the center, and I thought that if it's going to be a climber, then it'd be nice to have him/her in action. Further, I wanted to give the cliffs some scale by illustrating their continuity into the distance. In retrospect, I should have either expanded the sky or cut the ocean short, because their relative proportions are still a little too evenly matched. I inserted what is basically a place holder ocean, but there's definitely room for drama in waves as long as you don't let it upstage your primary subject. That's just a matter of study and taking the time to paint them in right.

One thing I definitely underestimated earlier in my life about art was the thinking that goes into an image. It makes a big difference to plan things out.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:23 am     Reply with quote
FallDamage....nice composition dude Smile ...I look forward to the next steps Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:50 am     Reply with quote
Thanks 3, the detailing is on joemo, it depends what he wants to do with it. Though I definitely have some ideas : p
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:08 am     Reply with quote
I used to live by the ocean (sigh). Thanks for the suggestion watmough...

Go FallDamage! You've got some ideas, let 'er rip (I don't mind overpaints). Useful contrast between the two, thanks. Nova Scotia? That's my idea of ocean (Bay of Fundy; Cape Enrage...).


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 8:50 am     Reply with quote
FallDamage wrote:
I don't know if this helps at all, but I started playing with the idea, and although I intended this to be a quick paint over, it ended up getting a little out of hand in terms of changes to the subject. Anyways, do with it what you will; just a quick sketch along the same lines as yours.

Basically, I wanted to get the subject further from the center, and I thought that if it's going to be a climber, then it'd be nice to have him/her in action. Further, I wanted to give the cliffs some scale by illustrating their continuity into the distance. In retrospect, I should have either expanded the sky or cut the ocean short, because their relative proportions are still a little too evenly matched. I inserted what is basically a place holder ocean, but there's definitely room for drama in waves as long as you don't let it upstage your primary subject. That's just a matter of study and taking the time to paint them in right.

One thing I definitely underestimated earlier in my life about art was the thinking that goes into an image. It makes a big difference to plan things out.


Thanks for the notes FallDamage. At first I thought the subject (mine) was 'too far' from center (that's my lack of composition knowledge). Just went to Corbis and searched "pounding surf", got lots to work with now (references). The waves upstaging the primary subject might be a problem (for me)...
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