[spooge demon]

let the spam continue...

scanning oil paintings is hard, almost as hard as doing them.



Done from life, about 2-3 hours.

If I am getting too artsy fartsy, just say so and I will retreat to noodled shiny stuff

Most of the stuff I post here is really out there for me. I learn and grow a whole bunch falling on my face. i don't know if I would be exploring this much without this forum as an audience.

And mostly I get honest opinions here, very helpful

[Ramiranda]

I like very much this picture.Simple subject and comoposition but well done.
I do watercolours and i like the corrosions.
Is very expressive and i hope you post more stuff like this.
I�m working in my own website and i hope to show us as earlier as posible.There,you will find a lot of watercolours and Crayons pictures, and some Sketches... be patient.

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[SporQ]

the shiny stuff is good, but i personally like to see these rough artsy images. it helps to get a better feel for your processes.

do you do very many traditional peices, or is just to hard to break away from the convinience <sp?> of doing paintings digitally?

SporQ

[Solitaire]

...I like the generosity in your brushstrokes (expr.?), but I have one problem with her face...
look at her right eye - is she sorta twinkling or is one eye tired and the other is not? I know some people who have such irritations but it's not the usual case.

just my modest opinion

[Speve-o-matic]

Hmm, I find here nose to be very angular. Looks a bit strange, but I never saw the original subject matter . . .

I really like the colours and the overall mood.

You should post more of your traditional stuff Spooge. It would be good for all of us.

- Steve

[Blitz]

Yes
A little hand painted stuff.. mmm good

It's tough to crit. I would really like to say something constructive rather than "" your the best spooge, I love it soooooo much"

I am just learning this coloring thing. I have made a few leaps and bounds but it will take time to get it down. Art is allot tougher than playing football.

I am really interested to see some more work from not only you but every one in different mediums.(I say this here because I know most EVERY ONE will visit your thread)

The shirt is interesting. It looks like it is melting. I find that the really light spot on her cheek and her neck really catch my eye. I wonder if it was toned down a notch as far as the brightness. I duno.

Its good to see several posts from you now.

Blitz....Talented artist all around

[fwiffo]

hey spooge, dig the palette. just wondering what medium you used for the oils to dry so quickly? there seems to be a some layering/optical mixing going on parts of the painting.

[samdragon]

I'm still trying to figure out what it's painted on. What is that, wood, masonite? It looks like it would be very hard to paint on that surface, yet..you did it.
It's amazing to see your use of light as color, even in this type of medium.
Very inspiring.

[janne]

lovely, i like this one a lot. and don't you dare to retreat from doing things like these this is pretty much most inspirational stuff i see posted here and one can learn a lot(at least learn to think differently) looking at these and reading your own comments. thanks for sharing.
now about the image... how do you achieve such wet watercolourish strokes i can see at bottom of the painting? a lot of turpentine or what? then i also like how there are those sharper and more contrasty places on the face. then there is definite feel of "atmosphere" around the figure... subject as this(face portrayed from front) could easily end up looking flat but this one definitely doesn't.

janne

[surferboi]

i get more feeling outta ur brush strokes then i do from the person/pose. She looks kinda bored.

[Light]

This is ok. Id remove or change the colors over her lip though -- they are too grey/blue.

I'm not sure what you were trying to do with the background? It seems to balance her head somehow.

Also, it might make a better composition to cut off the bottom part of picture.

[kimzoll]

2-3 hours thats really a good result you have there. One crit point : the left side of the face looks swollen like she got punched or something. I like the simplicity in it
Kim

[Chapel]

I like the palette on this one, but I don't really like the form the figure took. Did you do an underlying sketch before you painted? I'd be interested to know what that looked like. Just from something you told me a while back about the painting being as good as the underlying drawing. Too bad this isn't digital you could show me.

[Joachim]

Very nice. I like simplicity. Nice to see you are doing such great things with traditional mediums as well.
I wish I had some training with oil painting.

The cool thing, I think, though you paint on phshop, with oil or even gouache, you can still see that spooge technique that shines through, even though the 3 mediums works in very different ways. That's a good thing though -that's what makes it spooge/craig'ish
I guess it's how you mix colors and also much how you build up shapes ??!?


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[Anthony J]

hey nice oil work there spooge

i decided not to hack up mickes msg area, so im bringing my questions to you over in your area...makes more sense.

Ok that technique that you were explaining in mickes area about not having to open a new windows to work on the eye part...
I've been trying to do it, but im sort of lost.

I rec marquee, i dont know where the FLOAT command is, i can use numeric transform to Blow up but not size down
What is the command to size the eye down in Numeric Transform ?? :/

so far the eye blows up to a large size and overlaps my original image. It doesnt float...so can somebody tell me where the float command is?

I can enlarge the eye no problem.
I had to copy it, save the file as a PSD, then import my original JPG file into the PSD ...
So i do have a layer, but i couldnt do it in the manner you were saying.

help


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[Francis]

Covering up the left half of the painting vs covering up the right half makes me like the left half a lot more. Guess that's just the pinhead unsophisticated hack in me, but for me it's harder to get a sense of the form with the right side - seems to have fewer recognizable landmarks, like hairline, edge of jaw, etc. Also the brighter red highlight just under the chin and slightly to the right confuses me a little - seems to read as an edge in her clothing or collar or something.

The left side however, reads really well for me. I can easily see which way the planes of the face lie, and where the edges are. The lighting, shadows and reflected light make a lot more sense to me there.

I remember in your other post that you talked about trying to lose as many edges as possible - is this more in the same vein? It's interesting because I interpret that as you trying to break some of the "rules" you've mentioned here before (defining edges, turning of surfaces, etc.).

Okay, end of BS from me. Thanks.

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[Dives]

Well i like the "painting" look of it. But the figure looks realyl weird. My personal favorites are the nice and shiny pictures but i like this too. My advice would be do what you feel like it usually turns out the best that way.

[micke]

No, your'e not getting too artsy at all.
Personally i think seeing thing like this, is like a fresh breath of air among all dragons and swords these days
I like it very much.
The use of colours is very rich and looks great! One crit, though, like kimzoll said, her face looks a little bit swollen on the left side. Joachim said, it looks very Craig'ish and it does. It's seems like you paint the same way on computer as in real life, wich is cool. Please don't stop posting these. I've always been interrested in what proffessional artists creates and experiment with on their sparetime.
Good and interresting!
-Mikael

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[Rhomb]

I agree with micke. It's very refreshing to see something like this in here every once in a while. I like the painting overall, only the lower left corner with the yellow strokes distracts me somewhat.

-Ville

[Anthony J]

Hey spooge
do you use your Scale method for the images you put on the forum? Or are they just huge images drawn loosely?

Sorry if i keep picking at your brain
im just trying to get an idea of how to do large images with nice detail...seeing as ive only done small sized works before.

Anybody else have some good info on large images for me?...please post!

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[Frost]

Spooge: I think it looks great, and not too artsy fartsy - I think it's great to explore oneself and ideas and techniques, don't ever hesitate in doing so and showing us.

I do find interesting how you still use high-contrast hard edges and highly saturated colors (especially highlights) even in your paintings, I somehow expected your paintings to be more subtle.

The background texture is really weird but adds a lot... have your repainted over some other painting?

Very nice.=)

[TheMilkMan]

Spooge.....I don't understand why you would do an oil painting this loose when I know you are capable of much more. I admire the fact that you paint at all ( I don't ) but I know you can paint ultra realistically ( probebly paint anyway you like . I guess you where going for im that quick loose look you do with your digital paintings sometimes and I could look at that and say (Hey that is a Mullins ) if I seen it hanging up somewhere. Why don't you get a digital camera and a black piece of paper and photo your paintings in...much easier that way

[LordArioch]

Funny how when you can see rough brushstrokes, the pics looks "artistic", but when you can see digital paintbrushstrokes, it just looks unfinished. Just goes to show how ingrained the medium is in the public psyche.

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[jasonN]

Very nice pic spooge The colours look very rich and I like it a lot!
I've become more and more interested in traditional mediums over the last two weeks, so I'm glad you posted this, don't see many oil paintings in the forum.

I figure that if I learn to paint with gouache, oil will be easier to pick up. Am I right?
Very nice stuff and I'd love it if you would post more traditional pics.

-Jason

[Simon Gustafsson]

It looks really good. as usual.
as for critisicm. well, you always have that dramatic lighting in your pics, witch is not always helping the subject i think. Many of them have the same mood, like you were telling the same story again and again. Its a very nice and convinceing mood but maybe you should try something else.
Another thing i noticed in your paintings are that many of them look more like paused hollywood moviescenes than paintings.

about technique. I dont think it matters if one side of the face looks swollen, or if you paint rough or noodled shiny. It tells a story, thats what matters. Biggest problem I see is, as I said, many of your pics tells the same one. well, at least to me =). Hope I made some sense here......anyway your stuff is very inspiiring. Please post more traditional stuff.



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[rdgraffix]

Nice stuff Spooge!
I'd love to see some more of this if you do it. The thing I love about natural media is the quality of the loose, fresh brushstrokes - I mean just imagine trying to get that quality of texture digitally, and traditionally it's all done with a flick of the wrist!

I've found that the biggest drawback of painting digitally, and lately I've hauled my old paints out of storage and made some quick, fresh and loose bases on canvas and board. I'm hoping thst working off of scanned bases like that will help the overall feel of my digital paintings, as some of the base texture is sure to show through and impact even the tightest areas of detail.

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[Fred Flick Stone]

Mr. Spooge-hello, I haven�t been around in a while. Francis showed me one thread, and that�s about it. I have been over inundated with work, and I don�t get any play time these days.

This is an interesting painting. Technically, there are some issues with the face, i.e. anatomically. The jaw is a bit too low, the two eyes don�t really look quite like they are from the same model, blah blah, but the idea and execution is wonderful.

How long did it take to create? What size is the image? Was it from life at home, or was it at Calabassas? I know at associates, we had a class that played with colored gell lights, and experimented with paintings in these lights. Sometimes two lights on the subject, each complementary in color to the other light.

I honestly think you should be posting everything you make that you feel you want to show, not holding back to the shiny polished stuff a few people would rather see. This is an opportunity for many to understand that an artist isn�t usually just about the art he sells. It is about watching the exploration and growth of an individual, who doesn�t necessarily agree that all work needs to be the same formula. You are one of the few artists I have ever known to take so many chances on your own time. I don�t even do that, and I need to more. I get so wrapped up in the work I am supposed to do that or proffesioned to do that I forget that I have an ability that goes beyond that stuff. I forget that I can be me on my own time, and delve into other fun tasks. None of them make me any worse. They only allow me to see new ways of doing the same thing repeatedly, getting new and fresh results as the consequence of trying. You have shown us a lot that is not considered commercial, and I think that, well, at least for me, I know you much more personally as an artist, and possibly as a person, without you needing to speak of such things. Your exploration does all that and sings quite loudly in the work that you show us.

I only hope that all this work doesn�t end up going to waste, and that you can inject this sort of flavor into the work you are commercially hired for. Let me ask you something, do you find greater happiness in doing this experimentation, and feel shackled up when you have to go back to commercial work? Or do you feel like you can easily place yourself back in that commercial mould, content as you are when you experiment? Just a personal question. Reason I ask is that I seem to have a greater passion for painting from life, and every time I go to school and teach, then come back to work, I have a very difficult time reving back into commercial mode. I find a slightly more obscured resentment toward it. Only because it is so polished, so tight, so organized, that I can�t let anything go to chance. That is just me though. Hopefully you will have some interesting thoughts to that question.

On another note, Robert Mcginnis is coming out with a second book in April, the Paperback Covers of Robert Mcginnis, I think it will have a catogue of every cover he has done. Also, I have two books for you, that I am sure you are eager to dive into. Let me know when you want to get them, and if you and your wife want to come down to Rockwell exhibit, I have extra tickets and I�d gladly give em to you. Let me know.

Thanks for sharing your new art with us, it is very inspirational�

Take care, and back to the grind�

[garuda_x]

nice loose feel to the painting. i be the scanning was a biatch as most scanners are just a bit bigger than 8.5 x 11. i usually work around that by using a digital camera. i have this crappy one that only shoots at 640 x 480 then i double or tripple the res and touch up in p'shop. since your obviously not going for photorealism i will just say that i like the gestural qualities you captured in the face. almost like a camera with the aperature left open for too long and some motion blur has been caught on the frame. i like that. wow i sort of forget what the picture looks like when i'm not looking at it. it has a sort of flickered light source, like there were candles around the subject.... mostly warm and warm neutrals. did i see some greens and blues thrown in for contrast and tone? i need to look again. fun stuff though. what size was the original?

_x

ah. on second look, you blued and greened the bg. it looks like you lay a warm neutral washon the whole canvas before you started. it nice and fun. _x (again)

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[EviLToYLeT]

Hehe.. not much to say. Just that I like the look of it. It looks like someone splattered paint all over a canvas and lo and behold, got lucky and a face formed in the middle. Great texture btw... hehe wait doh. That's the canvas. Anyway, Like how the nose is defined by so few colors... hehe, has a polygonal look to it . Anyway, all in all nice job.

[yoshi]

i see you've been trying to beat van dyck at his own game, but you missed few brush strokes, eeeehehe, sorry, i go now.