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GodOfWar
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:26 am     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:13 pm     Reply with quote
GodOfWar: Very nice, love your rendering.
IDrawGirls: Cool stuff man...

Some quick studys from ref


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:22 am     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:35 pm     Reply with quote
XIA: Love them, very niuce...

Ref studys...


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:35 pm     Reply with quote
Ref study

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:04 am     Reply with quote
Too much good stuff. Shocked

Thanks seth1. Love your stuff. How do you get smooth lines like that?
Maybe just try to capture the proportions a little more accurately.

Done without reference ...

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:48 am     Reply with quote
seth1, thanks mate.

A sketchbook page from yesterday, no ref


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:00 am     Reply with quote
seth1, godofwar, idrawgirls::: madposters! =) keep this shit running !yho

slick page xia


..dudes about to die/fear of dying






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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:18 am     Reply with quote
Wow, this thread is on fire!
Great stuff

Rassel: Good update. Thanks for the solid advice on the previous page, I will try to use less ref, but sometimes you need it to improve.
The middle one in your last update is my fav.
Great painting by the way, hope it get's into Expose.

Seth1: Keep it up, try to follow the direction of the surface with your shading.

GodOfWar: Yeah!

IdrawGirls: The more girls, the better Smile

Xia: Yeah, always like your delicate way of drawing the female form.

Sorry for the bad quality of the pictures, I can't use my scanner and my digital camera has a lot of distortion.






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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:49 pm     Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:27 am     Reply with quote
RasselTassel: Those three are awsome.

buzzz3d: Great pages. The elephant on the first is wicked :]

Excuse my unimaginative, boring work from yesterday. No ref.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:17 pm     Reply with quote
I drew lots of figures and faces that are way to bad to be posted here.
Does anybody have any tips about how to get better at drawing without reference?
Everybody here is so annoyingly good at it.
For some reason I don't know how to build a library and how to draw from it.

Something from reference:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:25 am     Reply with quote
buzzz3d > Hey I really like your faces and their expressions. Inspiring stuff. I wanna go draw right away. Keep emīcoming!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 4:48 am     Reply with quote
: )

lots of sketches posted in the SP-thread.. i dont mind it at all.. its the "cool place to be" ; ) ..and i noticed that this thread actually is named the _daily_ drawing routine...never thought about it before.. thats a huge commitment.. "will you marry me!?"... maybe would get in more peeps if we changed it to something more casual... how about "stfu and draw"? awell aint that big of a deal iguess..

IDG: good question, i would recommend training your visual memory... sounds fancy eeh? ;P ..nah but if i would put that question into perspective and answer it out from my own experiences i would say u really dont need using photoreferences at all.. i think im okay recreating life out of memory and i dont use refs (yet).. ive simply trained up my visual memory pretty good without even realising it by just looking, wondering.. and then drawing what i've seen...(excuse the me-me-me) it helps of course having a feeling for perspective and proprtions etc to begin with.. but watch, study and draw... be bold when u draw.. understand what ure drawing... this will probably set of a chain reaction if u think its funny and ull draw and remember all sorts of stuff... i cant however say that u should stop using photorefs entirely and only go from visual memory from here on, we're all different..

what works for one guy might not work for another guy.. depending on the persons age, situation, training plan etc... the downfall with using photorefs is that the user probably feels forced to reach a certain result to match the market (most of which is on refs already) and produce a better final image than skill is capable of.. this is cool and all.. im not bashing refusers.. ull probably see me there in the future aswell.. im already messing with overlay-layers when painting etc.. but the most important thing is that its pretty unessesary starting with photorefs that early in your training.. sure it helps your work look good but that is the least thing u want things to do when ure in training.. when u do shit bad u progress =)... this is probably one of the reasons why artists starting out young turn out pretty good.. they dont know the shorcuts and they simply dont care if their stuff looks like "shit"... its not supposed to look good right?... young dumb and all.. the kids that learn the shortcuts too early usually end up having a hard time later on... there is however a nice amount of sjuneers here that are bold enough to skip the shortcuts.. and if we give em time enough they'll blow our minds eventually..

Final tip then would be.. more brain on the visual memory... find things that interest u and just go at it... something simple as a cowboy for example can teach u everything about anatomy, proportions, colors, perspective.. and so on.. the secret is wanting to know more of the subject.. are u for ex. able to rotate something ure drawing in front of u in 180 degrees in your head and draw that?.. cowboys taught me anatomy and cars taught me perspective.


haha.. stfu and draw already! -___-

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:24 pm     Reply with quote
GodofWar: You can draw without ref very good, good job on the cloth-wrinkles.

Rassel: Always inspiring. I agree about the thread title. Stuff and draw sounds fine to me Smile Wouldn't mind some color use either but maybe other people think different about this and want to keep it strictly drawing only.

Nyqvist: Thanks man, best compliment anyone can give. Checked out your website, looks very good. Hope you join us soon!

IdrawGirls: I have the same problem, I guess to keep drawing is the best way.
Look back on some drawings now and then, (not too often Smile ), look for bad points and study ref for those problemareas.

Odds: Good job on the hands.



Paints:
http://home.12move.nl/erik3d/sketchbook/091_acrylics.jpg
http://home.12move.nl/erik3d/sketchbook/092_gouache.jpg
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:45 pm     Reply with quote
Quick 5 min sketches from ref.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:22 am     Reply with quote
RasselTassel, yes that was the plan with the Daily drawing Routine and it was named that because I when I made that first thread wanted a committment from everyone to participate on a daily basis, no one joined though and I decided to leave the thread. Too bad it didn't work cause I tried with posting every day back then but as all previous threads I was the only one committed and it cannot work that way.

ok nonsense rambling from me.
keep up the good work Rassel. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:51 am     Reply with quote
oh: *daily*! - I thought it said...uh...
okay, can't think of anything that rhymes with daily... Embarassed

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:11 pm     Reply with quote
This one is for you buzz3d and u Idrawgirls since you gave me that pm buzz3d and also for you Idrawgirls since u asked for me a couple of pages back.
keep drawing everyone.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:24 pm     Reply with quote
buzzz3d: "Didn't even know it was possible to draw in Word.

Word will now do (for 'free') close to what illustrator/micrografx
designer/coreldraw would do years ago...though still helps to know what
you're doing, which is not the case below ("bezier" points - been seen
here already):

"Like your continous lines."

have only tried that a couple times (see "guts"), the ones above are
with a mouse = extra wild...this one is after a mag ad (on paper)...

re your latest, what can I say? Smile



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:32 pm     Reply with quote
Oh............My................Goh

Those awesome concepts! Those great shadings! Man I feel like a noob here.

Srry I can only give my pics as links, but I found it useless to put them on the intaweb twice.

http://forums.unrealplayground.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26245&stc=1[url]

http://forums.unrealplayground.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25900&stc=1[/url]

http://forums.unrealplayground.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25880&stc=1[/url]
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:31 pm     Reply with quote
Sorry about the posting screwup, folks; the post [mine] above belongs on the previous page, where I noticed it had been replaced (because of a glitch or something) by a string of code; in sorting that, the original post 'jumped' to this page - dunno how, but there it is.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:47 pm     Reply with quote


portrait i did a while back. a tad over-worked on bad paper


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:35 pm     Reply with quote
Hi Guys! I love the idea Smile
As I have some free time I decided to learn drawing the Capcom way Smile.

Now that I finaly decided not to become profesional artist
I dont have to hone my drawing skills and can draw just for fun Very Happy
Will draw one Capcom character per day.

Today menu:
Donovan from Darkstalkers.



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:12 pm     Reply with quote
Talbain from Darkstalkers
I was suprised how time consuimg the coloring was Smile

Please upload your works I fell lonely around here ....


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:19 am     Reply with quote
Matthew: you last one's impressive. don't know what it is but I like it.
Maybe I'll join too. Ah let's see if I can come up with some girls, can't promise though Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:13 pm     Reply with quote
Max, hearing that from you really makes me glad cause I know you put a lot of weight into composition thinking aswell. That one above was a work-sample for a school application and I have no idea what they will think but I know I like experimenting. I am still trying to understand the rendering part with pencil which is the most difficult I believe cause it doesn't have to be perfect to make a good drawing, oh well I need more experimenting.

thanks again Max I really appreciate it and keep up the good work u too, me really likes that latest speedy from you in the speedy. Smile

ok keep up guys, this one's for you Max.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:50 pm     Reply with quote
Hello Matthew Smile I really like your work. Its possible to look at it for a long time.

Today :
Guile from Street Fighter.

I had some problems with proportions, but there is a lot of days in front of me Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:33 am     Reply with quote
Thanks Matthew, I like those last 2 a lot.

not much time this week, so did a few ballpoint-sketches.


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