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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:59 pm     Reply with quote
After more than a decade of working digital, I've got a strong desire to get back to some oil painting. My friends have counseled start small, but I've decide to start big so I've laid out a composition that is essentially 4 feet by 6 feet. I figure why spend time creating a dozen small disasters when the same can be learned (or relearned) with one gigantic disaster.

My inspiration for my personal art has always been on a continuum somewhere between Francis Bacon and Pieter Bruegel the Elder... This piece is entitled, "The Irreverent Rapture."

tech notes: I laid out the composition in Photoshop and then had a 4' x 6' print made on heavy matte paper. I adhered the print to a wood panel using Yes glue. I then applied 5 coats of acrylic matte finish. Finally, I diminished the line drawings with a mixture of the Liquin medium and Titanium white.

Here is the composition line drawing...



Next, I start the underpainting...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:21 pm     Reply with quote
I'm glad to hear you're doing some oil's again! I believe there's something to gain when alternating between traditional and digital.

Looks like a promising start Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:07 am     Reply with quote
Awesome,...that sounds like a lot of work. Can't await to see the finished painting. Good luck and keep it up!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:43 am     Reply with quote
I suppose your painting will look like as modern version of Bruegel the Elder :D It'll be exciting to see the finished work from you!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:36 am     Reply with quote
eyewoo wrote:
I figure why spend time creating a dozen small disasters when the same can be learned (or relearned) with one gigantic disaster.


Thats the spirit! Smile

I've never heard of someone glueing paper to wood and painting over that. Is this a standard practice now with the large format printers, or have you just invented something?

What type of wood, 1/2" plywood?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:05 am     Reply with quote
I don't think I'm the first, but perhaps one of the first at this large size. The glue used. "Yes" glue. is an archival paste-like glue that does not buckle paper, as most glues do. I believe it was initially developed for the book manufacturing industry. I've been using it for awhile and am impressed. Most fully stocked art supply stores carry it, though it is not well known, perhaps because it gets classed into the crafts category.

Plywood... I used 1/4" hi-end plywood with 1 x 3 bracing clamped and glued to the back

Here's the stage it's currently at... just after painting the titanium white with medium. The guidelines are quite faint, as i wanted them to be.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:33 am     Reply with quote
Thanks.

The reason I guessed 1/2" was because without something on the back 1/4" would curve with stuff glued to it. But you got that covered. Smile

When I worked at a trade show company they would make those counters with doors on the back. They apply a laminate (formica) to the exposed side then glue a backing sheet to the inside face to prevent warping. A backing sheet is what the color layer of a laminate is applied to.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:30 pm     Reply with quote
Oh boy,....now that's really big. I wonder how long this takes...can't await the rusult!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:33 pm     Reply with quote
Before starting the oil painting, I'm working out the color schemes digitally on a lo rez image... Here's where I'm at so far with that part of the process.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:56 pm     Reply with quote
I'm going tio continue with WIP here at Sijun, but I've also set up a blog for the development of this painting...

http://www.philwms.blog.com
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:09 pm     Reply with quote
wow,...so you are painting the whole thing 2 times? I couldn't do that,..zero patience : ) Respect!

by the way...that spidergirl reminds me of brachypelmans stuff : )
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:49 pm     Reply with quote
Max Kulich wrote:
wow,...so you are painting the whole thing 2 times? I couldn't do that,..zero patience : ) Respect!

by the way...that spidergirl reminds me of brachypelmans stuff : )


Well... the first digi paint was done quite fast and small rez... to work out color schemes, etc. The real paint I figure will take weeks, if not several months. Not sure yet.

That spidy lady was from a drawing I did in 1994



brachypelman would have been 17 at the time. I like his work! Maybe I inspired him... Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:51 am     Reply with quote
Lol. Very Happy Yeah, I remember a painting you did with this spider lady and some scifi people shooting at her with bows in a dessert/mountain scene,...
man that was quite some time ago...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:09 am     Reply with quote
yepsir... Smile 2002


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:00 am     Reply with quote
Yeah - that's it. wow,...2002...i am feeling the good ol times,...incredible
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:30 am     Reply with quote
The underpainting is not complete yet. Here is where it's at so far:

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:24 am     Reply with quote
Fabolous! It looks almoust like watercolor. I think you could even stop here : ) - It already works.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:36 pm     Reply with quote
Max Kulich wrote:
Fabolous! It looks almoust like watercolor. I think you could even stop here : ) - It already works.


Well... being large (4' x 6') and shrunk for the web might give it a finished look... but it really is not... Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:36 am     Reply with quote
best of luck and perserverance then... Only comment I have a this point is that looking at the colour sketch, I hope you won't be darkening your tones by just adding black as it looks like in the sketch. It gives a kind of lifeless look to the colours.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:57 am     Reply with quote
yepsir... Actually, I don't use black oil paint...Smile

...and BTW, I only used it for the car tires in the digital... If black tones rather than dark bowns, greens and blues are not showing on your monitor, it might need some color adjustment
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:15 am     Reply with quote
heh, I think my monitor is fine. There were places where I felt the colours looked dull: the hood of the car, the tree trunk in the foreground, the preacher's robes etc. But, of course, judgement reserved for the final product...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:12 am     Reply with quote
understood. I didn't spend a lot of time on the digital mockup, 'cause that is all it was... a mockup to essentially rough out the color distribution and lighting which is not meant to be dramatic... pretty much a grey overcast day type of lighting with no particularly strong direction.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:09 pm     Reply with quote
I don't know how you can muster the patience to work traditionally after spending so much time with access to save and undo Smile

Keep us updated, Phil.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:27 pm     Reply with quote
Wel at least the painting is really "saved" in this case and can't be lost : )
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:32 pm     Reply with quote
Max... not so fast... Smile

One of my teachers, Neil Welliver, lost a huge number of his paintings in a fire that burned his studio to the ground... YIKES!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:09 am     Reply with quote
more work on the underpainting...


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:44 pm     Reply with quote
You're pretty fast actually! Are you finished already?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:34 pm     Reply with quote
Fast... I wish! Working the process in oils for me is about a zillion times slower than digital. I'm still working on the underpainting. Don't have as much time as I'd like to work on it... but even when I do, it is slow going....

Here's where I'm at... not very far from the last upload.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:30 am     Reply with quote
doing the digital colours roughly first is a fantastic idea that i shall have to take on board. Talk about time saving!

I like how this painting is going, i shall have to check back and see the updates.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:52 pm     Reply with quote
Looks fantastic so far Eyewoo...can't wait to see the finish.
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