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neff
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:12 am     Reply with quote
Hi Dudes,

i'm looking for a tablet PC to draw in my Artclass digital.

The Modbook from Axion doesnt seems so good and it's technology looks quite overage.

I saw some hp pavilions, but i don't know if they work for me.
So, do you have any suggestions about a good tablet pc to work on or would you say it's not profitable at all? Do the Pens work like on a Wacom with a magnetic field?

Right now i Work on a Cintiq 12wx (too circumstantially to transport) and a Intuos 3, so that's my base situation.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:15 am     Reply with quote
Most Tablets use Wacom digitizers, with the exception of Dell and Gateway.

Toshiba, Lenovo/IBM, and HP are the brands I'd recommend. Fujitsu is good too. HP makes a good, cheaper tablet (the tx2500z) if you don't want to spend too much money. That's the one I'd go with if I were buying a new tablet right now (I currently have a Toshiba M400).

It will feel just like working on your Cintiq, although there may be a little more parallax (the distance between the tip of the pen and the LCD screen), depending on which tablet you get. This just means that you might have to zoom in a little in Photoshop for doing small details.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:28 am     Reply with quote
Only problem with most tablet pcs they are good for sketching but most fold the keyboard underneath the screen in tablet mode, thus losing your keyboard so you'll need to plug in a usb keyboard if you want to use any shortcuts or you can get used to doing everything on screen.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:14 pm     Reply with quote
I have the HP tablet pc mentioned by Balistic and it's great for the price(around $2,200AU). The only problem I have noticed is a slight lag between the motion of the pen and the appearance of the line on the screen(although I'm only talking about fractions of a second) so if you're running Vista it may be worth your while to up the RAM to 4Gb(I'm running 2Gb).

Also,regarding Dekard's comment about the keyboard, the HP's come with a virtual keyboard. When you're in tablet mode you have a small tab that sits at the left edge of your screen. If you touch it with your stylus the virtual keyboard slides out into the centre of the screen allowing you to tap out the keys you want and closing it sends it back to the screen edge again.

I'm sure it's probably not the best tablet pc on the market(my original preference was for the Toshiba) but at almost half the price of many of it's competitors, it's difficult to go past this great little buy.

I just realised I'm sounding like a salesman for HP, but I've been using this machine in my work almost on a daily basis at over 8 hours a day since Febuary this year, and it's still going strong. I'm very happy with it.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:21 am     Reply with quote
I#m gonna get this one:
http://www2.computeruniverse.net/urlmapper2.asp?mapurl=/products/90293245/hp-pavilion-tx2650eg-zm-82-vhp.asp&urlmapped=true
and will do a review as soon as it arives...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:41 am     Reply with quote
Hey Neff, if you notice that Photoshop/Painter isn't getting pressure sensitivity from your new tablet, you'll need to go to Wacom's site and download the Penabled driver.

Some tablet manufacturers don't install it at the factory, for whatever reason.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:17 am     Reply with quote
That's pretty much the same as mine but with a larger hard drive and double the RAM. I'm sure you won't be disappointed with your purchase. I just did a currency conversion and that's a great buy. It converts to $1,666AU approximately whereas I paid $2,200 AU for mine. I can't help feeling a little envious.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:27 pm     Reply with quote
For you who have used one of the newer HP tabletbooks how responsive is it and how natural does it feel when you draw. If not natural do most people get used to it? and how much better is it than a wacom on a scale?

Im planning on buying a notebook and I like to draw and have recently tryed some painting IRL and this seems like it might be a nice thing not just for the drawing part but also for intuitive browsing/gaming and watching movies when you are on the go.....well give me some feedback! Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:06 am     Reply with quote
If i asked to many questions in the last post please feel free to answer as short as you like...There must be at least a dozen or more people here with new tablet pc's.

Replys would be most appreciated.
Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:54 pm     Reply with quote
I've got mine today. Will give a quick review the next days...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:13 am     Reply with quote
I'm longing for that review Neff! you are making me desperate man!
Still feels in the gut for me that a non tablet pc is the way to go pricewise.

What I'm really yearning for is that e-paper to get where I wan't it to be; a small papyrus roll in your pocket that's connected wirelessly to your mobile phone/internet.

When I'm into predictions I can give you wall street guys a dead sure tip, that is that panasonic/olympus will shake the camera market to the core with their new micro fourd thirds camera (with outstandning videofunction) ready to receive your drool sometime middle/late next year. I'm thinking about investing whatever small amount I can scramble together just to get the "I told you so" license with friends. (and get richer doing it Wink)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:58 am     Reply with quote
Okay, sry for this long time wait. But on the other hand, i'v got more time for testing in this way.
So here are my little thoughts about the HP TX2000 (in Germany its called 2650 whtasoever) Excuse my medium english skills, but i think they'll do the trick :-9

The tx2000 has 4gigs of Ram and a dual AMD Core, so from the point of hardware it's no problem to handle PS and other graphic apps.
The included Wacom Penabled technology supports 256 steps of pressure sensivity and it's hard to feel any difference in compare with the 1024 steps of an intuos3.

The TX is a bit heavy, with nearly 2 kg but that's no prob if you put it on your knees while drawing.
You also should put a few PS Options on the desktop in tablet mode. (I used the free app "touch buddy" for this.)
And of course, you need the Wacom Penabled Drivers from wacom.com Smile

So what should i say? I'm happy with my choice and the tx2000 is way better for mobility than the cintiq. (and it's even cheaper)

If you have more questions about this, just ask me.
I Will do a more detailed review with tips on my blog in german soon.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:37 am     Reply with quote
How's the pen feel? I painted on some Toshiba tablet once for a couple of minutes, and it felt awkward to me because of the gap between the screen surface and the actual display element underneath - felt like my hand got in the way of seeing what I was doing. Do you get used to that, or does the tablet allow you to calibrate well enough to avoid the parallax issue?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:31 am     Reply with quote
Well, on the one hand you are able to calibrate the pen via wacom drivers, but on the other hand you getting quite used to the feeling after about 30 minutes of drawing.
You just have to use it in another way than a intuos and shouldn't compare it all the time. If you accept that, it's cool Smile
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