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Tomasis
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:47 pm     Reply with quote
Interesting and thought provoking movie. I think this movie is much better on explaining things than former version of Zeitgeist.

I recommend all to watch this at least for contemplation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4Z9WVZddH9w
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:00 am     Reply with quote
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, that's the only thing that ever has."

Kinda like Lenin and the kids.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:40 am     Reply with quote
personally, i think.. i may sound cynical.. to judge human nature..

it will be changes people wish for, only when it is too late in situation. But it is pointless make a change afterward then, sort of Apocalypses thing comes up at the end if it will ever happen.

i smiled after last sentence, it was good try. As I said above, it is almost impossible. Low, middle class people cannot do nothing when money and ignorance (lack of knowledge & insight) rule their lives. People who sit on top ie politicians, are too greedy, busy with themselves. No changes from them whatsoever.

myself i enjoyed watching interviews of scientists, philosophers and other such people. They mentioned that they have no political agenda, just some opinions based on wishful thinking for the whole society and based on research. Yeah that was surprising for me since "Zeitgeist" is associated to conspiratorial movies earlier. At least it brings new questions for me which is fun as with philosophizing.

When I think about North Africa (Egypt, Tunisia and other) and Arab spring, I see that pain cannot be endured forever sort of (same with Soviet union), it comes to a point that brings change whether we want or dont want. Pain, lack of freedom dont have to come from limitations of one ruling human being, but also "dead" things.

/one dust piece

BTW money and capitalism rule! I love it until my death Very Happy IT is best thing I know ever.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:40 am     Reply with quote
yeah this one is cool, its pretty irking and sad that the first came in with the truther/conspiracy angle that stained the ones afterwards....love the talks with the scientists and guys like Jacque Fresco. I think the emphasis on using technology to live in accord with nature is important if humans wanna survive much longer.

Honestly i don't think any worthwhile change is gonna come politically, probably some scientists will accidently invent something that fucks up the whole system Wink
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