[Chris]

No what is embarrasing is how bias that guy is, and how he didn't bench mark on the full exploration on what the PIV can REALLY do. Look at this information from http://www.intel.com/home/pentium4/tech-info.htm

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The Intel� Pentium� 4 processor maximizes the performance of cutting-edge technologies such as digital video and online gaming, and has an innovative design capable of taking full advantage of emerging Web technologies. Currently available at 1.50 and 1.40 GHz , the Pentium 4 processor introduces a new generation of processing power with Intel� NetBurst� micro-architecture:

Hyper pipelined technology doubles the pipeline depth to 20 stages, significantly increasing processor performance and frequency capability.
A rapid execution engine pushes the processor's Arithmetic Logic Units to twice the core frequency resulting in higher execution throughput and reduced latency of execution.
The 400 MHz system bus, the improved Advanced Dynamic Execution, and an improved floating point pushes data efficiently through the pipeline for lifelike video and 3D graphics pushes data efficiently through the pipeline.
Streaming SIMD Extensions 2 (SSE2) extends MMX� and SSE technology, and with the addition of 144 new instructions, the Pentium 4 processor gives you the advanced technology to get the most out of today's and tomorrow's Internet experience.

Intel's Pentium 4 processors contain a new advanced Level 1 (L1) instruction cache technology, Execution Trace Cache, that delivers a much higher performance instruction cache. The Execution Trace Cache makes more efficient use of cache memory.

In addition, the Pentium 4 processor's Level 2 advanced 256 KB transfer cache, a collection of built-in memory chips, delivers increased overall performance.


The motherboard is the main circuit board inside your computer. The motherboard contains the central processing unit, the bus, memory sockets, expansion slots, and other electronic components. The Intel� Pentium� 4 processor uses Intel's highest performance desktop motherboard, the D850GB.


Optimized for the Intel� NetBurstTM micro-architecture, the new Intel� 850 chipset contains numerous integrated circuits and lives at the core of your motherboard. The 850 chipset, together with the 400MHz system bus, gives you the complete performance platform for awesome computing power.


The 400 MHz system bus is an advanced, system that delivers three times the bandwidth of the Intel� Pentium� III processor system bus. This provides a 3.2 gigabyte transfer speed between the Pentium 4 processor and the memory controller and is the highest bandwidth desktop system bus available, delivering more responsive system performance.


The Pentium 4 processor comes with dual channel RDRAM for maximum performance. Balanced with the 3.2 GB/sec data transfer rate the dual channel RDRAM increases with the processor frequency for complete, optimized performance.
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400mhz bus vs. 133mhz? and Tom only used 108! No wonder it makes it look like crap.

[balistic]

Chris, you have utterly no idea what you're talking about. Running the bus at 108 actually OVERCLOCKS the P4 to 1.73 GHz. Tom was running the chip /faster/ than spec.

400 MHz is the virtual bus that the CPU uses, not the speed of the system bus. Imagine a poor little $20 winmodem being pinged at 400 MHz . . . 100 MHz has only recently become the standard for the PCI bus.

Also, I laughed out-loud when you called Tom Pabst "bias" (sic) and then proceded to quote Intel's official technical literature as your counterpoint. My irony meter just melted a six-foot crater in the floor, you owe me damages.

Want another P4 review? Go to www.anandtech.com . . . he's even harder on the chip. Give dansdata.com a look too.


*edit* Cripes, and you fancy yourself a programmer too.

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[This message has been edited by balistic (edited November 21, 2000).]

[[Shizo]]

RAMBUS throughput is ~10 times higher than regular SDRAM.. But what's use of it if you can't afford it, and CPU didn't make much use of it since it is too slow :)

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[Chris]

oh well I tried to defend them

I don't know hardware guts hehe...

lol..programming is different then hardware architecture..that's funny that you think they collate....of course what kind of programming you talking about?

basic, html, xml, asp, vb, java, javascript, c, c++, c#, assembly or as400? Not too sure, your being vague.

[[Shizo]]

Heh
This topic got lame. I swea to myself not to look in here again =]

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[balistic]

My machine at home actually isn't overclocked, but at work I'm on a 700 running at 800 (1.9 volts) via an Athlon Afterburner GFD. It has no cooling beyond the stock fans and sink, and is extremely stable. The cache settings aren't modified.

We have a room with seven similar machines that we use as render slaves. They are all 700s clocked to 800 with Leufkin GFDs. Unfortunately, if you close the door to that room, the ambient temperature gets up around 90 farenheit, and all the boxes start blue screening like crazy

I can't wait for that Micron chipset that has eight megs of cache. I hear its supposed to be out in January.



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"What we're hearing, techno, is the process of trying to create something of the future." - J.M.

Brian "balistic" Prince
3D Artist
Eggington Productions
www.bprince.com