[Phloh]

Hey guys, just looking for some feed back since my teacher doesn't give me the attention i need(not blaming him, its a large class) here are 5 life drawings i did in my last class, they are 20min long and i used vine and a little compressed charcoal on 18X24paper. I'm mainly looking for ways to make things POP i guess, i think some of these seem too flat, anyways let me know what you think, and if you could tell me which one is more successful and why, i would appreciate it.
thanks again!

[neff]

arr... you need alotta practise.

try to seperate the body into simple forms like cubes and spheres.
check sumaleth link collection.
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[Phloh]

thanks for the post. if you could be a little specific on what is not proportionate, and what i could work on i think it would be a little more constructive than the less informative "Practice." i've only been doing life drawings for 5 weeks now. I'm not looking for compliments, but i don't get a lot of critique in class so I'm asking for some here, and "alotta practise" is kinda an unhelpful kick to the face. I also learn better by hearing opinions about what's wrong and right than by looking at how the pros do it.

[Naeem]

hey phloh
for 5 weeks, thats decent. i suggest you buy this book by Bridgeman, called...-er.. i cant remember the name. but its got a green cover. it simplifies things alot.
also, look into some books by vilpuu, and vilpuu does alot of dvds as well explaining much on the human body.
we can all give you critiques, but what neff has basically said has a general basic idea- lots and lots of practice. not necessarily you, but everyone. i know many people who draw the human figure everyday for hours on end, and they're really good, but they keep going because everyone needs lots of practice.
as for crits- you're aware that you need to work on proportions. if you look into some resources above, they show how to simplify things. you need to learn proportions, as everything is off. gestures, quick lay-in of the figure, etc are the way to go. do you know how many heads the human body is- lengthwise? there are just general rules that you should know in theory, and in practice, and later as you get better, you can learn to break them.
i hope that helped. keep going.

[Phloh]

Thanks! i got a book from each, hopefully i get better or its your neck! jk but thanks, really.

[Max]

Another tipp I can give you is not to start shading your skeches too early. It won't make them better. Try to get your oulines right first. As long as they don't work properly it won't get you anywhere. Keep up the good work. Everyone has started at some point. You'll get better soon if you really want to!!

[Phloh]

i 100% agree but my teacher doesn't he has a 50/50 policy, where he wants 50% lines and 50% tone,(it's obvious i'm not ready for that) i think i'm going to talk to him to see if i can work on my lines till i get it. thanks a lot for the tip/post!