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Ragnarok
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2000 3:24 am     Reply with quote
IMHO the problem with the hair is it doesn't look as she was swimming. Her pose is right, but if she is swimming her hair would look different, over her face or "going backwards". I hope this makes sense
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2000 4:38 am     Reply with quote
Labrat: I did comment your piece seriously,
what do you mean?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2000 4:43 am     Reply with quote
Micke: Just that you didn't talk about the subject so deadly seriousness like few others. I didn't mean that you didn't comment my picture seriously... Just that you didn't comment my rambling too seriously... samdragon did, tho... So I guess the sentence doesn't make much sense...

oh well... Let's fix it:
Everyone who commented my picture and gave some ideas/opinions, thank you. Everyone who took my ramblings too seriously, big bad "blah" to you...

I would close the thread now if I could...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2000 4:49 am     Reply with quote
mutisempa ihan piruuttani suomeksi, nuo kun eiv�t pid� siit� kun t��ll� kirjoitetaan "toissijaisilla turhilla naurettavilla rumilla kielill�".

tuo on muuten aika jees mutta ainakin mua h�m�� se ett� siin� ylimm�isess� alue-reunassa jossa oranssi/punasetti muuttuu kokonaan mustaksi, ne pallot ja twirlit ja muodot jne voisi jatkua paljon pidemm�lle, se ero mustan ja sen 'itse jutun' keskell� on aika h�m��v�n t�nkk�. sen verran h�m��v� ett� jopa jaksaa mainita siit�.

kahjo olet kun k�sin tuota jyyst�t, sen olis tehnyt displacement mapeilla aika lailla nopeampaa:) mutta like i said, aika jees.



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2000 4:55 am     Reply with quote
Well, excuse me everyone... this is only for finnish people... har...

Faustgfx:
heh, no joo kahjo... mik� ettei... K�sin tuota teen vain siksi ett� ei ole muutakaan tekemist�. Ja puritanistiksikin on haukuttu kerran jos kaksi.

P��lleni on r�itty sen verran usein ett� "tietokone" tekee kaiken ty�n, nje, nje, nje... ett� olen nyky��n aika pitk�lle tehnyt kaiken k�sin, ihan vain todistaakseni maailmalle ett� perkele! hehe..

Mutta tuo musta/v�ri vaihto ei ole ihan niin hyv� kun se voisi, my�nnet��n... katson jos jaksan tehd� sille mit��n, mutta tottapuhuen olen menett�nyt kiinnostuksen tehd� mit��n isoja muutoksia kuvaan...

So it be, finnnish rulz.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2000 5:00 am     Reply with quote
siis jos siit� l�hdet��n niin se on Oikeiden Taiteilijoiden oma helvetin h�pe� jos haluaa tehd� kaiken vaikealla tavalla ja hylkii koneita tuon syyn vuoksi.

sen verran itsekin toki tuota syyttely� harrastan ett� jos kuvassa n�kyy lensflare ja eye candy 3.0 fire niin sitten siet�� niskalaukauksen saada.

itseh�n v�rkk��n t�iss� esim kaikki tekstuurit jne vastaavat k�sin enk� k�yt� valokuvia kuten loppufirma..

mutta joo. t��ll� foorumilla on sellaisia peeloja sen verran tarpeeksi ett� huhhuh kun tulee keskustelu tai muuten vaan kysymys tai huomautus siit� ett� miss� oikeasti on jotakin oikeasti mielenkiintoista/p�tev�� tekniikkaa k�ytetty ja miss� kylm�� filtteripr��st��.. kun eiv�t eroa tahdo sitten kirveell�k��n huomata. toisaalta peeloja t��ll� nyt on muutenkin aivan helvetisti, ei mill��n hyv�ll� loppufoorumik�ytt�j�kansaa kohtaan. :p



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2000 5:11 am     Reply with quote
Njaa, peelojahan l�ytyy joka foorumista jossa on enemm�n kuin kymmenen j�sent�... en edes tied� miksi min� t�nne edes rekister�in, olin lukenut viestej� jo jonkin aikaa ja taso oli liev�sti laskussa viimeaikoina... silti min� rekister�idyin... virhe... heh..

Nojaa... Kyll�h�n sen "tavallaan" ymm�rt�� miksi "Oikeat Taitelijat" eiv�t hyv�ksy koneita. Mutta sitten taas jos k�ytet��n puhdasta logiikkaa... niin ei sit� ymm�rr�. Ihan jo tuon "OiTa ongelman" takia ajattelin opetella maalaamaan muullakin tavalla kuin koneella, sitten ainakin voin tunkea niiden Oikeiden Taiteilijoiden perseeseen niiden 21 tuumaisen sonyn monitorin sek� tunkea maalauksiani niiden suuhun. Perkele.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2000 5:18 am     Reply with quote
"viime aikoina" ?

bwha. odota vain seuraavaa faustgfx vastaan maailma -tappelua :p

mutta siis to begin with, taide on perseest�. hukattua energiaa. s��li ett� itse en osaa oikeasti tehd� mit��n muuta, niin on pakko kituuttaa elantonsa graffaneekerin�.

ei t�m� foorumi nyt niin paha ole, t�� vois olla esim commercializingbymark, tai topaz, jotka ovat aivan merkillepantavan uskomattoman sanoinkuvaamattoman perseest� ihan noin kaikessa mieless�. toisaalta sielt� irtoaa huumoria. :p

t��ll� vain ei kannata toitottaa tota "m� oon hyv�, uskokaa nyt!1", kaikki tapahtuu aikanaan. mit� nyt katselin tuota sun sivua, taso on 4x korkeammalla kuin suurin osta t�st� porukasta.

commence bullshit chewin'. out.



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Joachim
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2000 7:18 am     Reply with quote


Hehe, you don't start any flame wars with that. I think it's a very nice topic, personally. But, as long as what you are longing for is some genuine feedback, because I don't think it's important to try aiming for those "great stuff, keep it up" kind of comments. Because, they are really not important for improving your skills, just ego. I too wish that everyone would get feedback, the sad thing is that constructive and valuable critics often comes with those pictures that everyone replies to as well...but, what I'm trying to say is that the amount of replies isn't what really counts, it's more the good ones, if that made sense ?!? ....The goal should be to become a hotshot in the real world, because that's what really counts....-that's probably the only good thing I learnt by participating in the demo scene, back in the old days.

Your picture. To be really honest, I find it very hard to give constructive feedback on it. Since, everything I say, could be really stupid. The reason is because it's a very "abstract" one. It's a nice picture, but very "artistic" and not the kind of image were you have challenged yourself to focus on anatomical, light and that kind of things. Therefor, everything could be correct, and if I would give you some feedback, that's the things I would focus on, therefor probably just something that would change your picture more than improving it. That's also why it can be hard for people post on it, because unless there's something in the picture that appeals to them in a very special way, they would not know what to say. That's just my overall feeling about the forum and feedback on art in general, could be wrong, but that's atleast why I would have had problems replying to this image in the first place. But, I do agree that it's sad that feedback often follows certain artists or the pictures that people generally like without having much helpful hints to. Personally, I reply less to those images that I would love to give serious ctitics and hints to, because it takes more tinking to give the right feedback, and often I don't have the patience or time to do it. But, I think the most fun thing to write about in the forum is when I do get the time or chance to help others, and I'm sure many others feels the same way. Now, just for the record, I just write this to say how I feel about things, not that I'm saying that I'm some "elite" that knows all the answers, because I don't.

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